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re: How easy is it to get a job in law enforcement?

Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17815 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:32 pm to
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It is a low paying job.
Yeah but the license to kill is worth it.
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8050 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:33 pm to
BRPD AND NOPD all have to do a physical, PT test and a polygraph then get accepted to POST academy. LSP you gotta go through a mini boot camp. Start at the bottom then work your way up to detective or be related to the sheriff.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
23190 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:34 pm to
Who was the Capt then?
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:35 pm to
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LSP you gotta go through a mini boot camp.


True.

LSP training is like boot camp. BRPD/EBRSO is a joke to anyone in decent physical shape and can remember basic details.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26236 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:44 pm to
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State trooper-impossible unless you know someone or are black


Yea, the 11/17 Louisiana State Police academy class is very black.

This post was edited on 1/1/18 at 9:45 pm
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:24 pm to
The pay isn’t bad in the right place. Some departments start at 70k a year if you have a degree. Other places you can make good money if you have no social life and work every extra duty detail you can get.

It’s a job that you burn out quick from. It’s mentally draining. Most the people you deal with don’t like you and don’t want you around. You have to be able to fight someone and gain control of them and still be courteous.

Think about it, you spend a 12 hour shift dealing with other people’s problems and trying to find solutions to it. They’ll tell you they have no faith in you and that they pay your salary. Call you names and look down on you but you still have to give them 100% because your integrity and reputation is on the line and you swore an oath.

That’s not even getting into the politics. Imagine being a detective and spending weeks talking to crying victims (rape, theft, etc) and loosing sleep trying to get them justice only to have the DA’s office skim over your report, offer some bullshite plea deal and move on.

Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:37 pm to
Difficulty to hire on:

City>County>>State>>>>>>>Federal

As for rank:

Everyone starts at the bottom and works their way up. Unless they transfer in with experience.

Haven't you ever seen a cop show? You got to earn dem stripes.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:58 pm to
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Difficulty to hire on:

City>County>>State>>>>>>>Federal



Spot on. You cannot reach the federal level without previous experience in most cases.

Best police job in Baton Rouge is LSUPD. Pays more than all but LSP and you don't deal with any of the ghetto bullshite the others do.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10955 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:26 pm to
Go to an LSU game and look at the cops working that event. Doesn't matter where on campus. Then go home and look at yourself in the mirror. You'll probably pick a new career unless you peaked in high school.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30593 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:27 am to
Very informative and I like the perspective.

I’m at the point where I’m wondering if my current job is what I want to do the rest of my life. I’m a teacher, 31 years old, stable financially, etc. I am in the 8th year of this.

I look at many of the people that teach what I teach, and they love it. They live for it. They like spending extra hours at school functions on Saturday, competitions, etc. I find myself always eager to get home...for nothing in particular. My passion for what I do hasn’t necessarily dwindled, but it hasn’t grown. I always find myself wondering about other careers.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:42 am to
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I’m at the point where I’m wondering if my current job is what I want to do the rest of my life. I’m a teacher, 31 years old, stable financially, etc. I am in the 8th year of this.

I look at many of the people that teach what I teach, and they love it. They live for it. They like spending extra hours at school functions on Saturday, competitions, etc. I find myself always eager to get home...for nothing in particular. My passion for what I do hasn’t necessarily dwindled, but it hasn’t grown. I always find myself wondering about other careers.


One thing to remember about law enforcement is that you'll be working long hours at times, and you won't always be able to go home when scheduled. It certainly provides a much more exciting and different career than teaching, though. Depending on the department, you could also routinely have three and four day weekends, which would be nice.

Assuming you're in Texas, there are a huge number of departments hiring. I'd at least contact a few recruiters and talk to them if you're interested. It can't hurt. Everyone needs officers right now.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30593 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:52 am to
Yeah, I’m in Texas. My concern wouldn’t be about not finding departments that hire.

I’m beginning the soul searching to find something I am passionate about and interested in doing long term. Right now, I’m not sure teaching is it. Time off is great, the pay is what I expected it to be. Aside from that, I find myself wanting a bit more in terms of me doing what I want, making a difference, that sort of thing.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:52 am to
My first job out of college was working at a police academy in Louisiana.

2 people washed out in my time there and only because they were old as shite and couldn't/wouldn't meet the physical requirements. Sad thing is, they were the most intelligent ones in the class.

POST written tests are a joke and, to use an overused clickbait phrase, it's INSANE that anybody could fail that.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:20 am to
Like anything else you have to keep it as a job and not make it a lifestyle.

As far as getting started, look into the reserve programs at you local departments. Saw you said you were from Texas. Lots of good departments out there. Start out as a reserve and give it a year or so. It’s the best way to get your foot in the door and figure out if it’s for you.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5181 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:26 am to
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Met with the captain of troop a. He was a flat out jerk. Said why would I hire you when I can hire someone that has a trooper to vouch for them. I told him What the recruiters had been telling me and he flat out laughed. Wasted time.


Sounds like you may not have been emotionally mature enough to handle it if he was able to rustle your jimmies this easily.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:35 am to
That is good advice.

The first shooting I responded to was an eye opening event. The smell of a body, family members crying, gang members around wanting to get revenge. It was a lot to process. No matter how much classes you have on it the first few months on the job will make or break you.

The best partner I had was black and I was white. We worked off each other. I had blacks that would not trust him which would trust me. He had whites that would not trust me which trusted him. Latinos we had an officer called the generic Latino who would mix well with most of the Latino gangs to put out fires. It takes years to get to this point.

After 1st yr you think you know how to stop the next shooting.
2nd yr you think oh I can go visit xyz who is mid level person in the rival gang to stop this. It does not happen or your contact low level.
10 yrs you go bust heads of the mid level leaders of both gangs letting them know you have pull to have narcs shut them down for a few weeks. They seem to get the message when they trust you and turn over the person who did the killing to save their butt. Back then we had over 400 known gangs each group had certain moves or dressed a certain way.

It takes years to build relations in the community, help from older supervisors who had prior relationships, and strong contacts within the dept to get things done.

Let’s see a state officer have those relationships and actually make a difference in communities. They do not have this experience on how to deal with rough areas of the cities.

Yes, it does take a toll on you as it is hard to shut this off when you go home.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 7:41 am
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:38 am to
Probably between McDonald's and target
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:38 am to
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Nobody starts as a detective.


What if you have a master's or PhD in CSI?
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 7:39 am
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99043 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:43 am to
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As far as getting started, look into the reserve programs at you local departments. Saw you said you were from Texas. Lots of good departments out there. Start out as a reserve and give it a year or so. It’s the best way to get your foot in the door and figure out if it’s for you.




Larger agencies are now requiring all reserves to be POST certified. That will filter down to the smaller ones in the next few year.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15253 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:48 am to
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Baw Enforcement


Upvote sir
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