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re: How do you respond to those who say that gun control is the answer???

Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:20 pm to
We haven't tried real gun control in this country. They have in other countries and there is not nearly the shooting problems like we have here. I'm not sure if I would agree with going with a system like England or Australia, but if you are going to try to make gun control work then you have to go all of the way.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124672 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:22 pm to
You just ignore them.
They're usually idiots.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70806 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:23 pm to
There is definitely gun control. We don't enforce the laws we already have.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

There is definitely gun control. We don't enforce the laws we already have.


No, there is not real gun control like what they have in England or Australia...or other places.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:27 pm to
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No, there is not real gun control like what they have in England or Australia...or other places.


Thank goodness.

Wouldn't work here, and would just create a black market.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

Thank goodness. Wouldn't work here, and would just create a black market.


Australia did it successfully. It didn't work overnight but seems to have gradually. We do have many more gun/arms manufacturers in this country that would present a different problem of control.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:32 pm to
Serious question, not trying to be a smartass or a contrarian, but what is the answer?

Gun control probably won't work cause the genie is out of the bottle at this point.

But is there an answer or are we just stuck hearing about these every couple weeks from now on? Honest question, I have no ideas.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19681 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:33 pm to
I throw a shuriken into their skull.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Serious question, not trying to be a smartass or a contrarian, but what is the answer?


Look up how Australia did it.

There is no solution of any kind that will work overnight.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70806 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:36 pm to
It's illegal for a felon to have a gun, illegal to have a gun in the city of Chicago, illegal to conceal a gun without a permit, illegal for a person under age 18/21 to buy a gun, illegal to have a gun in several places, illegal to own a class 3 gun without lots of legal documentation (which are never used to commit crimes anyway) etc etc etc

How many felons are concealing handguns under the age of 18 in the city of Chicago?
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Look up how Australia did it.


I'm somewhat familiar with it. I'm taking about a non gun control solution.

NRA types always talk about how gun control won't work but rarely offer alternatives. If there is one I'd like to hear about it.

Trying to keep an open mind on the issue and not picking a side and rabbling about it.
Posted by Ellis Dee
G-Lane aka Pakistan
Member since Nov 2013
7042 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:37 pm to
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How do you respond to those who say that gun control is the answer???


This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 6:38 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70806 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:40 pm to
Enforce the laws you already have before you start making new ones.

Until law enforcement starts cleaning up the hoods around this county nothing will change. Outlawing drives black markets and crime.
Posted by Bruneaux
Thibodaux, La
Member since Aug 2015
618 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:42 pm to
I've always liked you, baw

You a good one
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

It's illegal for a felon to have a gun, illegal to have a gun in the city of Chicago, illegal to conceal a gun without a permit, illegal for a person under age 18/21 to buy a gun, illegal to have a gun in several places, illegal to own a class 3 gun without lots of legal documentation (which are never used to commit crimes anyway) etc etc etc How many felons are concealing handguns under the age of 18 in the city of Chicago?


It is not real gun control when you can just bring one in from nearby Cicero. If you want real gun control then you have to limit guns everywhere in the US...like they did in Australia. The Aussies are scions of criminals...even more so than us in the US and seem to have made it work. Hunting is still allowed there.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
9316 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:48 pm to
The casualty list would be much shorter if all the Paris, Colorado and California victims had been armed. Any of those needless acts are inexcusable but the frequency will diminish when an armed populace begins to shoot back. It should be a law that everyone must be armed.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69172 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:49 pm to
You pull a gun on them and say, "If you were armed too, i'd be dead."
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29622 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 6:49 pm to
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AZTiger7072


Ask them if they -actually- understand why they are emotionally angry about gun related deaths as opposed to medical mal-practice. Then when they DON'T understand what you mean, be sure to point out that the news runs stories that sell... the ones that stick. The ones with agendas...

If he/she isn't busy getting angry at doctors right now then they are either a media lemming OR are showing a hypocritical double standard... unfortunately, they are likely BOTH.

Look up gun related deaths per year vs medical malpractice.

Guns are a powerful tool. They elicit strong emotional response from the gun-ignorant type of folks.

*edit*

Btw this is not my way of hating on the medical field. Simply trying to hold a mirror up to some that need to get a good look at themselves.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32622 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:04 pm to
Pull my gun out on them, bc obviously they aren't packing, and say "whatcha gonna do bout it?"
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24057 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:04 pm to
You have 3 options, Repeal the 2nd and the Feds can do it, repeal the14th and the state's can do it, or pound sand.
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