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re: How do you feel about VW owners shafting VW on buyback?

Posted on 12/26/16 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/26/16 at 4:11 pm to
Thanks. I knew theyd push back as hard as they could for damage control.

I'll fight them to the death. I'm still driving about 600 miles a week so I am in absolutely no hurry to start doing that in a truck. As soon as the Jetta papers are signed, I'm buying a new truck and canceling insurance on the old one.
This post was edited on 12/26/16 at 4:13 pm
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 4:15 pm to
Are we supposed to feel sorry for Volkswagen now?
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14361 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 5:28 pm to
My paperwork I submitted online has been in their "audit process" for a month. This is BS this company can go on out of business after this and I won't care.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 5:37 pm to
Be prepared for them to email you back with some minor error on your paperwork.

For instance, the footer on one of the pages I scanned back did not completely scan.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59342 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 5:39 pm to
Why do so many people have beef with VW? I feel like I missed something
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5572 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 5:52 pm to
They're buying mine back Jan 26. I haven't had any issues other than timeliness. On Nov 11 they said they'd have my papers finalized within 10 business days. They didn't get that done for another month. Finally set my appointment and done with the online portal.

If you're still waiting in limbo, I suggest you call the claim center and ask for a status update. I kissed the reps arse and was told "within 3 days you'll hear back". I got my final papers less than 3 hours later the same day.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20734 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:20 pm to
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That said, Karma is a bitch. And shitheads get what they deserve.


So VW is getting what they deserve, no?

I mean they only defrauded thousands of people and made a profit.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:25 pm to
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VW actually designed a cheat into their cars.


Wasn't it just an emission cheat? Who gives a frick about that.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20734 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:29 pm to
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Wasn't it just an emission cheat? Who gives a frick about that.



No, it was emissions and MPG in some vehicles.

However, VW was promoting their "clean diesel" cars and some people in the market for low emission/high MPG vehicles (like the Prius) purchased those VW models instead. Had VW been forthcoming with the true emissions standards those people may not have purchased the VW over the competition.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:31 pm to
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Wasn't it just an emission cheat? Who gives a frick about that.


They based a huge part of their business on a fraudulent product. They were the only diesel car out there without urea injection for years, giving them an unfair advantage over the competition.

I could give a shite about our stupid emissions requirements. I actually think they are unnecessarily punitive when it comes to diesels. What is an outrage to me is the fraud aspect of this. The cheating and lying to gain a competitive edge is inexcusable.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:36 pm to
So, suddenly everyone has become an environmentalist.

It's a fricking car that burns diesel. "Clean" or not it is still a dirty fuel.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:49 pm to
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So, suddenly everyone has become an environmentalist.

It's a fricking car that burns diesel. "Clean" or not it is still a dirty fuel.


Did you read my post or are you just ignoring everything in it?
Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
5047 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 7:52 pm to
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They are buying ours back tomorrow.

What are you expecting back? I've gone onto the buyback website and run the numbers on the buyback versus the fix and based what it spit out it doesn't make sense to give it back to VW.

I've got a 2015 Passat TDI SEL with about 46k on it.

Buyback option says VW will pay me back about $1500+.

Modification option says about $3800+ which is the total of the initial mod + subsequent mod.

One guy I know has a '09 Jetta and thinks he's getting $12-18k back. Another guy I know has a 2 door Audi that that's maybe 2 years older than mine and is anticipating around $20k.

What am I missing?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:00 pm to
Oh I see our resident diesel engineer is here.

They priced out the competition by cheating the system.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99034 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:03 pm to
Haven't these people suffered enough?

They drive freaking VWs so obviously they've made some poor decisions in life.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:08 pm to
My buyback price was exactly what I calculated from the website. I turn my car in on the 12th. I've signed my offer and scheduled the date. Already bought a new car and the VW is parked.

In regards to buyback time, it takes a while. Make sure you do everything right the first time. Upload everything online and make sure nothing is expired (DL or registration). Once approved (~30 days), you'll get an offer in about 2 weeks, then you have to sign and get notarized. Then it took about a week for me to be able to schedule my turn in date. First available wasn't until the 12th, and that was for every dealership in the Houston area.

Someone mentioned mileage being the issue. I think that is misinformation spread by people who aren't familiar. If mileage was affected, people would have noticed long ago. Someone buying a 40 mpg vehicle is the type of person to pay attention to their mileage. Almost everyone I've talked to got significantly better than EPA estimates. It was just emissions. And the issue with that is only that we wouldn't be able to drive them without getting a "fix" which might completely destroy the reliability and fuel mileage of the car. I don't see how anyone can take the fix. Not even mentioning how it will no doubt be a diminished value vehicle. The buyback is the only way to guarantee pre scandal blue book value, plus 5k.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:18 pm to
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What are you expecting back?


About $19k

quote:

What am I missing?


Buyback amount is the Sept '15 KBB Clean trade value of your version of the TDI (VIN verified) in excellent condition. Plus $5,100 restitution, less excess mileage adjustment for anything over 12k/yr.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:28 pm to
That excess mileage adjustment thing killed me
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56966 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:30 pm to
Those dudes are PoS.

But.. I want my babckbacks for our 2 TDis affected. Resale value went down 10-15% overnight due to this shtt. One reason we purchased TDis for work vehicles was for their great resale even at high mileages.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:35 pm to
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That excess mileage adjustment thing killed me


Same

I thought it was a bit disingenuous to use that level of a mileage adjustment as the appeal for these vehicles was for people driving 30k+ annually.
This post was edited on 12/26/16 at 8:38 pm
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