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re: How do you feel about seat belt laws?
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:18 am to AU24
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:18 am to AU24
I've said it before. If a woman has the choice to abort an unborn child, I damn well should have the choice of whether or not I wear a seatbelt.
Ftr, I always wear mine, but that's not the point.
Ftr, I always wear mine, but that's not the point.
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Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:23 am to Warfarer
Two Auburn posters are for not wearing seat belts on the 1st page. Hmmm, maybe all those sayings about people from Alabama are true.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:29 am to Cromulent
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Two Auburn posters are for not wearing seat belts on the 1st page. Hmmm, maybe all those sayings about people from Alabama are true.
I'm for free choice of personal freedoms. I wear my seatbelt by my choice but I respect the right of people to make that choice for themselves.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:30 am to Warfarer
They're too intelligent to grasp that.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:33 am to High C
Thanks for pointing that out. If you don't wear one, you're an idiot. And by comparing the Right to have an abortion to wearing seat belts, you're grasping and not very intelligent.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:34 am to Warfarer
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be realistic, how often do people fly out of cars and endanger someone? If you are going fast enough to be a projectile and yet are around people walking then you should be shot dead anyway. Hopefully, if you are going fast then you are on some country back road and not around people. If you are going 50 or 60 in an urban area around a lot of people then frick you to start with.
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Lt. Lee Perry of the Utah Highway Patrol said he knows what happens when an unbelted driver or passenger becomes a deadly projectile in the car.
Perry has kept photos of the first fatality accident he responded to for 21 years. It was an Easter weekend in 1992 when a driver was having trouble breathing. He said he was amazed the girl was hurt so badly because the car had been broadsided on the passenger side.
"We cut the seatbelt off of her and when we did, her body came forward and we discovered her brother who wasn't wearing a seatbelt, who had been a passenger in the car, was lodged behind her body," Perry said.
The girl's neck and back were battered by her brother's body, he said.
"Because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt he became a missile," Perry said.
The boy died on scene and the girl died at the hospital, he said.
"(It's a) tough situation where parents lose two children in one crash because one of them chose not to wear a seatbelt," Perry said.
When a car crashes, a person's body, their pet or any other lose objects keep moving until they bang against the inside of the car or are ejected.
"If you think you can hold yourself in a crash there's no way," said Stacy Johnson of Zero Fatalities.
People should also consider the things they are holding. "Even if you're carrying a ten pound baby going 30 miles per hour, that baby becomes 300 pounds," she said. "You can't hold that baby back."
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:41 am to SabiDojo
so you gave 1 example that happened 25 years ago, good job. I can tell you 3 different stories of friends of mine dying from wearing a seatbelt in three different situations (not together). I can also tell you a story of 3 kids being thrown out of a car and having scratches when they rolled out on the grassy hill next to the road when they were in a head on collision with a friend of mine. The kid in the car that was wearing a seatbelt had their neck broken and died.
There are stories both ways, seatbelt will save lives in certain and common situations but can kill in other situations.
It still comes back to personal choice. I don't know how anyone can argue against personal freedom is a bad thing when it doesn't endanger others, or at least a very minuscule chance of endangering others.
There are stories both ways, seatbelt will save lives in certain and common situations but can kill in other situations.
It still comes back to personal choice. I don't know how anyone can argue against personal freedom is a bad thing when it doesn't endanger others, or at least a very minuscule chance of endangering others.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:46 am to Warfarer
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If you are going 50 or 60 in an urban area around a lot of people then frick you to start with.
Shouldn't I have the personal freedom to go the speed I desire? The government shouldn't require me to go certain speeds!
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:49 am to Cromulent
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Thanks for pointing that out. If you don't wear one, you're an idiot. And by comparing the Right to have an abortion to wearing seat belts, you're grasping and not very intelligent.
Exactly how is comparing two things that are very clearly personal choice, in exactly that context, grasping? Also, if you had read my entire post, you would have noticed that I stated that I do wear mine.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:49 am to DCtiger1
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Shouldn't I have the personal freedom to go the speed I desire? The government shouldn't require me to go certain speeds!
yep, pick the fricking line out of context for your argument. Your rights are dependent on not infringing on other's rights. By your argument, I should be able to go around firing my gun everywhere I feel like because the government shouldn't be able to tell me where I can fire my guns.
The rest of my statement said that you have the personal freedom except in a situation where you endanger others. Realistically, you don't endanger others by not wearing your seatbelt.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:53 am to Warfarer
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Realistically, you don't endanger others by not wearing your seatbelt.
There have been several examples provided in this thread as to how you do endanger others by not wearing a seatbelt, but you chose to ignore them.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:56 am to DCtiger1
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There have been several examples provided in this thread as to how you do endanger others by not wearing a seatbelt, but you chose to ignore them.
When the odds are less than .1%, it isn't a realistic chance. Because you can provide an example out of a million doesn't mean it's realistic. If I dig far enough I could probably provide you an example of a tornado throwing a tree a few miles and landing on someone but no one is arguing to ban trees.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:04 am to Warfarer
I wasn't referring to someone flying out and hitting your child. Not wearing your seatbelt makes you much more susceptible to losing control of your vehicle when getting into even a minor accident or hitting a bump in the road. Additionally, if I don't wear my seatbelt as a passenger I become a projectile in an accident and could severely injure or kill myself and everyone else in the car. It shouldn't have to be mandatory, but it is because dumb fricks like you want to prove about about big bad government not telling you what to do.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:06 am to DCtiger1
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but it is because dumb fricks like you want to prove about about big bad government not telling you what to do.
again, I wear my seatbelt. I have said that numerous times but I think people should be able to choose.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:14 am to Warfarer
One example? It was literally the first thing that popped up on Google search. 
In the event of an accident, a person not wearing a seatbelt poses serious threats. If the driver isn't buckled, they have less control over their vehicle. If it's a passenger, the passenger poses threats to others in the same vehicle or people in other vehicles. It doesn't just affect the person who decides to not wear a seatbelt. These aren't "freak occurrences". It's inertia.
In the event of an accident, a person not wearing a seatbelt poses serious threats. If the driver isn't buckled, they have less control over their vehicle. If it's a passenger, the passenger poses threats to others in the same vehicle or people in other vehicles. It doesn't just affect the person who decides to not wear a seatbelt. These aren't "freak occurrences". It's inertia.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:25 am to High C
Because you drive on a daily basis. It's a little more important to wear you seatbelt than worrying about someone getting an abortion. But hey, it's your choice.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:26 am to Warfarer
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be realistic, how often do people fly out of cars and endanger someone? If
I've been in 4 accidents where the vehicle overturned. The first was the worst. I was the passenger and had taken my seatbelt off to search for something on the floor, driver lost focus and drove into the ditch. Vehicle flipped 5 times. I remember flying around the cab helpless until I was knocked out. When I woke up I was in the bed of the truck which had luckily landed on its wheels.
Other roll over accidents I was buckled in and worst thing I received was air bag wounds.
As someone who has been a human projectile in an accident I can tell you I will take the option of being buckled in every single time.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 11:46 am
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:29 am to redstick13
That's neat. Glad you have the freedom to make the decision. Well done
Posted on 4/16/17 at 12:38 pm to AU24
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Just got a ticket for not wearing a seat belt. I understand the point of the law Its obvius. But shouldnt this law only apply to minors? Im grown Its my life
You sound poor. When you end up as a vegetable the tax payers will support your arse for the rest of your life. That seatbelt ticket as a deterrence is way better than us having to foot the bill for lifelong nursing care, doctors visits, etc.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 12:49 pm to redstick13
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I've been in 4 accidents where the vehicle overturned. The first was the worst. I was the passenger and had taken my seatbelt off to search for something on the floor, driver lost focus and drove into the ditch. Vehicle flipped 5 times. I remember flying around the cab helpless until I was knocked out. When I woke up I was in the bed of the truck which had luckily landed on its wheels.
Other roll over accidents I was buckled in and worst thing I received was air bag wounds.
As someone who has been a human projectile in an accident I can tell you I will take the option of being buckled in every single time.
So you've managed to be in 4 accidents where vehicles overturned?
a. you and your buddies are shitty drivers. I have managed 1 accident in my life and that was because a woman stopped in the road and stayed there until I tried to pass her.
b. so you bounced around in the cab helplessly, you didn't fly out of the window and fly 60' while wiping out other people?
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