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re: How did a generation of latchkey kids become helicopter parents?

Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:43 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:43 am to
I didn’t want my kids smoking at 14, drinking at 15, stealing lumber to build ramps, breaking into buildings under construction, sneaking out and going to large cities with older kids in the middle of the night, eventually flunking out of college because they were so drunk they didn’t go to class…spending a few years working temp jobs between coke benders..until they finally got their shite straight, so I chose to parent differently, it’s working so far.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:47 am to
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You frickers made everything you did illegal!!!

If I parented like my parents I would be in jail, under the fricking jail, but blame us for being soft or whatever.



Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:51 am to
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didn’t want my kids smoking at 14, drinking at 15, stealing lumber to build ramps, breaking into buildings under construction, sneaking out and going to large cities with older kids in the middle of the night, eventually flunking out of college because they were so drunk they didn’t go to class…spending a few years working temp jobs between coke benders..until they finally got their shite straight, so I chose to parent differently, it’s working so far.


Dude you summed this up perfectly... we know the situations and scenarios you could get into just being "kids"
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:51 am to
Those are liberals.

They are scared of their own shadow.

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First, we focused inward, then we focused outward. Then it was climate change, women’s rights, racial injustice, cloth diapers, hybrid cars, cruelty-free cosmetics, feeding the hungry, and eventually, we had kids and then we sought about fixing them. They had to be perfect too because otherwise all of the work we did on ourselves was for naught.

Unlike us, our kids would have high self-esteem so they wouldn’t become school shooters. They would not be abandoned or abused or molested or kidnapped. We hovered. We coddled. We tinkered. Imperfect children were diagnosed with this disorder or that, even as toddlers, then we would drug them into perfection. We gave our children nowhere to escape. So they escaped online.

Eventually, though, all points led to Barack Obama. A perfect president for a perfect utopia of perfect people raising perfect kids. We were good puritans, utopians who had fixed ourselves, and our kids, and now we had a president to fix our country.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 7:57 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:52 am to
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How did a generation of latchkey kids become helicopter parents?


Fear.

It's extremely powerful.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:53 am to
Thanks a lot unsolved mysteries and Americas most wanted
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:56 am to
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Because I know the kind of shite I did and don’t want my kids doing similar things.

Soft



I've really never understood that mentality (although I wasn't breaking into homes or anything as a kid). Doing bad stuff is important for learning boundaries and developing a personal understanding of when boundaries are crossed.

The meme of overly parented/restricted (often religious) kids who go nuts happens b/c they only perceive boundaries in the abstract and have no understanding of what they're doing once they decide to live deliciously.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:58 am to
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Thanks a lot unsolved mysteries and Americas most wanted

Not that sort of fear. Parents have lots of projected FOMO through their kids. Due to parents being infected with the fear mind virus, they want to curate every part of their child's life. Now with social media, this has exploded into taught narcissism.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:02 am to
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Now with social media, this has exploded into taught narcissism.


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But sooner or later you run out of the ones that already exist so then you have to start inventing new ones, finding new ways to define people as marginalized. Who is not accepted by Hollywood? Who is never noticed in public? Who is shamed or ridiculed or bullied? Those people needed rescuing and we were going to rescue them.

Everyone else, which was mostly everyone, was to be named as the oppressors. The more successful, the more oppressive.

Meanwhile, many of our kids began creating and inventing their own religion online, a jacked-up version of ours based solely on identity, purity, and a binary measure of people who are good and people who are bad. They didn’t realize it but they were building a utopian cult that would grow up, join the workforce, and completely overtake the Left. We saw the beginnings of it at Evergreen College in 2018.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:02 am to
Fair enough but I’m a millennial raised by Gen X parents and those type of shows definitely played a part in how I was raised
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:03 am to
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Fair enough but I’m a millennial raised by Gen X parents and those type of shows definitely played a part in how I was raised

You're basically arguing against the OP, though
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263158 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:04 am to
One issue today is many kids dont have one parent in the home most days, much less two..

Neighborhoods of old had long term residents who worked and retired there, parents knew each other and it was real community. It was a lot easier to trust whom your kids were with

Yuppies in the 80s destroyed neighborhood communities.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:06 am to
How?

The FOMO stuff seems to be millennial parents
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 8:07 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:07 am to
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How?

I'm saying fear is why parenting is different today.

You're saying the same fear was prevalent during the halcyon era of OP.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:09 am to
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Neighborhoods of old had long term residents who worked and retired there, parents knew each other and it was real community. It was a lot easier to trust whom your kids were with


It’s more this than anything else. Deep rooted neighborhood schools and churches and communities are very few and far between these days. Couple that with the rise of dual income families and you get what we have now.

This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 8:18 am
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:11 am to
No you’re just assuming that “fear” was a relatively new phenomenon

We’re near the same age SFP. The rise of kidnapping based TV shows happened when we were both young.

Stop being obtuse
Posted by Zapps4Life
Houston
Member since May 2016
293 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:27 am to
Some truth to this…
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263158 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:28 am to
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Deep rooted neighborhood schools and churches and communities are very few and far between these days


Yep, my neighborhood is a revolving door. Barely get to know people before theyre gone.

Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35715 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:30 am to
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At the risk of being taken to task....why?


It normally wouldn’t bother me. Hell I’ve been to more circle jerks than I can count. We used to even jerk each other off at times. But back then we didn’t have all this gay stuff everywhere. It wasn’t forced on us on every movie and tv show. We could just live our lives and be kids.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99723 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:33 am to
Trying to be to their kids what their parents weren't
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