re: How can you cognitively dissociate the our less glamous deeds from our ideals?

Personal responsibility has nothing to do with the flag.

When you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. Just don't turn around and blame others when you don't like the end results of your actions.

It's rather simple. Even a grad assistant can understand that.

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The flag represents everything that has happened under it.

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The good and the bad.

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Yes, dissertation complete.

Most people don't care mainly because they aren't having to deal with these issues.

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Ph.D. candidate

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analytically and intensely scruntize arguments

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Is it too humbling to admit the thing you deem as perfect is infact imperfect.

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I feel like this is a Rex alter. Rex always tried to sound intelligent but came off looking like a fool too.

Can someone translate the subject line into English for me? TIA

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n a civil society, there must be a social contract between the state and the citizen. Past wrongs that are perpetuated by the state should evolve over time; it's the citizen's responsibility, however, to trust the state's judgment and exercise prudent, discretionary action in response. I see no visible reason for the particular act of civil disobedience by Kaepernick as a prudent response to any judgment by the existing state.

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Idealistically, yes. I agree with you.

Let's talk reality though.

That's not happening, and I don't see how anyone with an education can cognitively say so. Disproportionate State violence against black people is as American as the declaration of independence; actually it predates it. That's a fact. If it hurts, sorry but there's nothing you can say to reverse that. But you can willfully ignore that. Which is what many seem to do. Or they just don't care because it's not them.

Why should black Americans trust the state? I'm asking for an honest reason of why they should? Looking st situations like Flint or the lead poisoning in Indiana, or health care disparities, Etc, why should this group has any faith in a govt not built for them, and built originally to exclude them? It was never crafted with them in mind, except as to be a cash cow for their economic system

We have amendments and clauses still in law that were meant to subjugate them. We have prosecutors to this day that still seek juries that were punitively punish and convict black defendants because of racial prejudices.

Explain to me in your opinion why black Americans can and should blindly trust in a system that has, more so than not, not had their best interest in mind? Whether it was repealing slavery then ushering in Jim Crow right after that, or the beginning of the industrial prison complex in the 1870s to round up those freed men, or laws used to punitively restrict their economic advancements. Or the Democratic Party taking black votes for 50 years and giving them nothing but ruined cities and more plight, when has someone actually had their plights in mind, and not their representation to some sort of fiscal or political gain?

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Goyas

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Classic example of a person who studies one topic thoroughly, possibly exhaustively, who therefore has spent relatively less time considering other disciplines, and yet considers himself smarter (read wiser) than everyone else on any other topic.

The flag and the national anthem are symbols. They represent our ideals as a nation. Ideals that are lofty yet worthy of admiration and worthy of the sacrifices made to attain and maintain them. Ideals such as freedom, equality under the law, a nation whose government is supposed to be of the people and for the people - all people of this country.

It is right and good to debate the what's and how's of such a nation. It is right and good to criticize our people or our government and seek change.

And I realize that disaffected people will sometimes act/react in countercultural ways to attract attention. But that doesn't mean that his point is a good one, or that he shouldn't be criticized for his actions by those who see it as a we attempt to throw the good out with the bad and an odd act of self-loathing since the one who is taking the swipe at the the symbols of our nation has been in a unique position to benefit from that same nation and culture, all together represented by those symbols.

Not to mention that the ongoing racist meme is so overly emphasized beyond any reasonable sense of reality, that it's patently absurd. We should be celebrating the amazing way that our nation continues to defy all of human history and many basic human instincts to be inclusive of all races, sexes, religions and origins. The flag actually represents a unity of different peoples whose commonality and unity is based ideals of freedom and equality.

All of the studying involved in the education of Goyas may have kept him from seeing the big picture, I think.

Congrats on your farcical psychology PhD.

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As a Ph.D. candidate, i tend to analytically and intensely scruntize arguments and perspectives in search of an answer.

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shut the frick up, pussy

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It was crafted by great, outstanding, but imperfect humans in search of perfection, so how can it be



Its not and never has been and "in search of perfection"? no, the founders liked pussy, money, booze, power and material things just like we do. Did they do some great things and put great things in motion? absolutely.

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, esta

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I see what you are saying though...