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re: How can we fix public discourse?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 5:55 pm to HeadCoach
Posted on 5/23/17 at 5:55 pm to HeadCoach
First thing we do is take away the ability for those Nazis on the right to promote their hate.
Then we shut down the gay leftist propaganda machines.
After that's done, it won't be hard to silence the centrists.
That should take care of it.
Then we shut down the gay leftist propaganda machines.
After that's done, it won't be hard to silence the centrists.
That should take care of it.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:04 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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We need to evolve beyond Right and Left, Conservative and Liberal. These terms have no meaning anymore in today's world. We need to evaluate ideas as either good or bad. Flesh out the positive and negative consequences both in the short and long term.
Don't try to bring any logic or reason into this discussion!
Conspicuous consumption in politics is truly ruining the country.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:27 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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We need to evolve beyond Right and Left, Conservative and Liberal. These terms have no meaning anymore in today's world.
Those are tossed around and used to help divide the general populace. If we're busy fighting with each other, we don't notice what the powerful are really doing.
My views vary, but socially are pretty progressive. But I can have a civil conversation with almost anyone, as long as they're not combative when debating. That's when everything goes to shite, and it's becomes fighting.
The television media has profited greatly by using this format, which has trickled into our society. That attitude and outlook is just cancerous, and has created, or maybe just accelerated, the culture war our society is in.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:36 pm to HeadCoach
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How can we fix public discourse?
You could start by *********ing Rush Limbaugh, who, IMO, originated both the venomous tone of our public sphere, and the "when in doubt, don't hesitate to invent your own facts" maneuver.
******** omitted in the name of improving the quality of public discourse.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:37 pm to Quarterite
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You could start by *********ing Rush Limbaugh, who, IMO, originated both the venomous tone of our public sphere, and the "when in doubt, don't hesitate to invent your own facts" maneuver.
******** omitted in the name of improving the quality of public discourse.
Dude, the poisonous environment goes back a couple decades before Limbaugh. It's gone off the rails with the election of Trump.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:39 pm to Pettifogger
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On controversial subjects, I usually find that the more one reads and studies an issue, the more nuanced they understand the issue to be. They may not break from their position in the slightest, but it becomes less black and white and they begin to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the respective sides.
The opposite is also true.
Famous quote: “The less people know, the more stubbornly they know it.”
This is in line with the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Wikipedia explains that it:
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occurs where people fail to adequately assess their level of competence — or specifically, their incompetence — at a task and thus consider themselves much more competent than everyone else.
...In simple words it's "people who are too stupid to know how stupid they are".
The inverse also applies: competent people tend to underestimate their ability compared to others ...
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:51 pm to Twenty 49
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Famous quote: “The less people know, the more stubbornly they know it.”
This is true. In the grand scheme of things, we're all at the bottom of the ladder.
People today are more "anti" than "pro"
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:15 pm to HeadCoach
Most people who actively discuss politics these days are no different than college football fans. They'll defend their side regardless of the truth.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:22 pm to Centinel
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Ya, I have several liberal friends who I have great conversations with.
But that's because I'm not a hyperpartisan dickbag and neither are they.
Well that is wonderfully irrelevant.
Now why don't you fix Nancy fricking Pelosi?
Anybody equating her with any GOP Speaker in terms of being a "partisan dickbag" is a fool.
and that is who they all picked to lead them
After you do that go have a chat with ANY CBC member.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:37 pm to HeadCoach
quote:less diversity of thought
How can we fix public discourse? by HeadCoach
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:43 pm to Jcorye1
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It's tribalism bruh
This.
Some people just like to be a part of a team. Go check out the poli board and see for yourself. No one over there has any interest in hearing arguments from the other side and having an intellectually honest debate. Whatever their team's star players say is correct, even if it goes against what they said the day before
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