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re: Houston Father saves his daughter that was lured into the sex trade

Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:23 am to
Posted by Phil A Sheo
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:23 am to
I'm conflicted in my response for this.. B/c it's horrible and awesome all bundled together.. And yeah I bet the pimp is toast.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64535 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:23 am to
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I used to be in the "victimless crime" camp.

Then, I watch the street hookers around the train areas in SW downtown Shreveport. You can see their pimps driving by, watching them. They are sad junkies.


Again, those activities can be considered crimes separate and apart from prostitution.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:25 am to
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Many prostitutes started off the exact same way this girl did. Many are groomed and/or handpicked by predators and even bought or sold between pimps and are underage. The end result is still the same and with no way out...i.e. just like the "sex trade."



but it is really the taboo and black market that create the demand for the underground sex trade.

Advocates for prostitution want a system that works like HBO's cat house. They aren't promoting street walkers.

There is no need for pimps if hookers can have a space of their own and protection provived by the law. There has been and always will be the demand for sex, might as well just be honest with ourselves and protect innocent people. It also allows people to know that their hookers are clean of STDs provided that the state demands regular testing.

What happened to the Clark family would still be considered illegal.
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 10:27 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:25 am to
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what do you think prostitution is when the girl makes 1000 a night and the pimp keeps 900 of it?


Legalized prostitution doesn't work that way. That's a byproduct of the black market.
Posted by CarterWilson717
If I told you, you would be dead
Member since Jun 2013
1518 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:28 am to
to you mr. Clark:
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:44 am to
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Legalized prostitution doesn't work that way. That's a byproduct of the black market


The issue is that in most cases, in order for a woman to be willing to become a prostitute, she has hit rock bottom. So they are willing to put themselves into horrible situations you see in the "black market". Who's to say that wouldn't happen in the legalized market? Who's to say a brothel wouldn't charge them 90% to work there? Who's to say they still wouldn't be doing this act to support the same terrible habit they were when it was illegal.

Sure some women can get what she wants out of the deal. But that nasty crack ho is still going to be a nasty crack ho, except now she'll pay taxes.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64535 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:46 am to
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The issue is that in most cases, in order for a woman to be willing to become a prostitute, she has hit rock bottom.


LOL. Keep believing that.

ETA: I love all of the white knights in here that view all women as pure virgins that would never engage in sexualized behavior if it weren't for evil men.
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 10:47 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:46 am to
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in order for a woman to be willing to become a prostitute, she has hit rock bottom.

maybe in the US, not so much just about everywhere else
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64535 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:47 am to
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maybe in the US


No, not even in the U.S.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40762 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:54 am to
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The issue is that in most cases, in order for a woman to be willing to become a prostitute, she has hit rock bottom. So they are willing to put themselves into horrible situations you see in the "black market". Who's to say that wouldn't happen in the legalized market? Who's to say a brothel wouldn't charge them 90% to work there? Who's to say they still wouldn't be doing this act to support the same terrible habit they were when it was illegal.



so you are fine with the status quo?
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11563 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:02 am to
I'm not saying either should be illegal. Quite the opposite.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14610 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:10 am to
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This is slavery though.

And that's why it becomes difficult to differentiate the lines. Even in places that are "legal", they still have people who were trafficked. You're kidding yourself if you believe it's a choice for all women.

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The issue is that in most cases, in order for a woman to be willing to become a prostitute, she has hit rock bottom. So they are willing to put themselves into horrible situations you see in the "black market". Who's to say that wouldn't happen in the legalized market? Who's to say a brothel wouldn't charge them 90% to work there? Who's to say they still wouldn't be doing this act to support the same terrible habit they were when it was illegal.

All of this is correct. People think that because a industry now has a thumbs-up, that people don't abuse the new system in place. It happens. LINK
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 11:13 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:12 am to
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The issue is that in most cases, in order for a woman to be willing to become a prostitute, she has hit rock bottom.


Man, some of y'all have this really fixed idea of why women get into this profession. You probably would be shocked at the number of regular college girls who engage in this on occasion.

Before it was made illegal in most places, there were brothels and the women who worked there treated it like a regular job.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64535 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:13 am to
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And that's why it becomes difficult to differentiate the lines.


It's not difficult to differentiate.

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Even in places that are "legal", they still have people who were trafficked.


Of course they do. That's why trafficking is a should be illegal.

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You're kidding yourself if you believe it's a choice for all women.


Nice straw man.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14610 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:16 am to
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It's not difficult to differentiate.

On a case by case basis no, but when trying to rescue people out of trafficking, it becomes far more difficult to save those people.

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Of course they do. That's why trafficking is a should be illegal.

Of course, states are just getting around to having stronger penalties for it.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64535 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:19 am to
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Man, some of y'all have this really fixed idea of why women get into this profession. You probably would be shocked at the number of regular college girls who engage in this on occasion.


Again, too many white knights in here that think pure, angelic women would never, ever, ever use their sexuality to obtain things that they want without some evil male enticing them to do so.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:19 am to
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Oh man. So a guy who straight up pulled a Taken is named John Clark?


Fellow Clancy reader I see.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:22 am to
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Again, too many white knights in here that think pure, angelic women would never, ever, ever use their sexuality to obtain things that they want without some evil male enticing them to do so.



Yep. A really naive view of sexuality and power IMO.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:23 am to
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And yeah I bet the pimp is toast.


From the link in the OP:

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According to court records, his daughter’s alleged captor pleaded guilty to promoting prostitution of a minor.


I'm betting this is how the cops found him, on the front lawn of the police station:

Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23421 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:35 am to
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Wade Wilson: I had another Liam Neeson nightmare. I kidnapped his daughter and he just wasn't having it.

[Lies down in bed beside Vanessa]

Wade Wilson: They made three of those movies. At some point you have to wonder if he's just a bad parent.
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