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re: Houston Drug dealing attemped cop killers didn’t do anything update:murder charged to cop

Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:09 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73226 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:09 am to
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Then either quit replying or quit crying like a bitch. You do this every time you try to argue with me. It's very beta.


Back on topic TH03,

i will quit replying when you watch the "animated generalization". LINK.

Are the police reports false? Is the HPD Chief lying? were you there at the crime scene and able to provide more insight to the incident than the rest of us and those involved? i'll wait on you Alpha dog. :-)
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 10:10 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:09 am to
It said they lived in that Houston house for 20+ years. Hard to believe they're hardcore criminals that just stop on a whim/don't get caught for 20 years.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22867 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:09 am to
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Ah I'm glad we finally can hear from someone at the house at the time. Why didn't you say so before?


Really no different than those assuming it was a no knock warrant.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:10 am to
I read the report. Your video is pointless since:

quote:

Watch the video above to see an animated generalization of what happened.

Note: The exact layout of the Harding home is not known at this time.


The video is for people who can't read and visualize in their head.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27865 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:13 am to
Although...

Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo said the drug raid on the home stemmed from numerous complaints from neighbors. He said undercover officers had previously made two purchases of black tar heroin from drug dealers at the house.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61606 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:13 am to
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Most important thing is at minimum we took some weed off the streets regardless of how it went down.

Marijuana? Pfft, they took a pit bull out. The world is a little safer now.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73226 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:13 am to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:14 am to
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i'll wait on you Alpha dog. :-)



I said stop being a bitch.

You're in an absolute melting frenzy because someone dare suggest another motive for the homeowner opening fire other than he's a drug dealing thug who wanted to kill cops. All while you unrionically tell me that it's useless to argue because I've made my mind up.

I've never once argued that had these people survived, they would be anything but fricked in the legal system. I've never once argued they were right in firing at police.

I've simply stated a possible reason why the guy came out guns blazing.

You're in a tizzy and won't listen to anything that disrupts your narrative of what happened. Just take a break and come back without being all emotional. You cry like this everytime you try to argue with me.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 10:16 am
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:17 am to
Just so I understand: A bunch of people break into this guy's house without warning and shoot his dog; he goes to the back, gets a gun, and shoots back at them; and there is no evidence of the drug he's accused of distributing? Is that right?

Not a good look.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73226 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:17 am to
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Dude. This is pathetic.


quote:

quit replying or quit crying like a bitch. You do this every time you try to argue with me. It's very beta.


quote:

I said stop being a bitch.

You're in an absolute melting frenzy because someone dare suggest another motive for the homeowner opening fire other than he's a drug dealing thug who wanted to kill cops. All while you unrionically tell me that it's useless to argue because I've made my mind up.

I've never once argued that had these people survived, they would be anything but fricked in the legal system. I've never once argued they were right in firing at police.

I've simply stated a possible reason why the guy came out guns blazing.

You're in a tizzy and won't listen to anything that disrupts your narrative of what happened. Just take a break and come back without being all emotional.


okay bro.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 10:20 am
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22867 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:22 am to
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A bunch of people break into this guy's house without warning

I have seen nothing that confirms or denies whether they announced their presence.

quote:

and there is no evidence of the drug he's accused of distributing?

They didn't find the drug the tip from a neighbor said he was selling.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:27 am to
I called it what it is, man. Sorry it offends you to have someone disagree.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27865 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:29 am to
They apparently sold to undercover officers. I’d say that’s evidence.

However it wasn’t found in the home.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7913 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:34 am to
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several shotguns and a rifle.




No assault or battle rifles?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:36 am to
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These military style raids get officers killed


Absolutely.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33290 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:41 am to
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Because they're prepared to defend their home.

I'm sure a criminal will wait for you to load your weapon when they break into your house.



Especially in the "sketchy" neighborhood that this board described as little Tijuana or some such, before the, "Now imagine she's white!" moment.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70573 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:42 am to
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I have seen nothing that confirms or denies whether they announced their presence.


I watched the initial press conference from outside the hospital and it I found it odd that the chief seemed to defend the point that not only did they announce their presence but also the other cops on the scene there to assist them turned on their lights and sounded the siren. I thought is somebody questioning this already? It almost seemed like he was covering his tracks.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11422 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Although...

Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo said the drug raid on the home stemmed from numerous complaints from neighbors. He said undercover officers had previously made two purchases of black tar heroin from drug dealers at the house.


Based on everything I've read in this thread, here is another purely speculative possibility....is it possible this guy has younger relatives or friends that he allowed to sell from his house on weekends or something? Neighbors complain because of the in and out traffic, etc. Undercovers make a couple of buys, and then when they raid the place, the real drug dealers aren't there, thus no heroin is there. Prolly not, just speculating.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92653 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:44 am to
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now this does look bad for HPD.


Did they find any drugs on location?
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:44 am to
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They apparently sold to undercover officers. I’d say that’s evidence.

Playing devil's advocate here: So they sold their only heroin to an undercover officer, then had no evidence of heroin in their home?

Also, why weren't they arrested for selling to an undercover officer? Police wanted to wait and make the arrest at their home?
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