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re: Houma-Thibodaux Diocese releases names of child molesters

Posted on 1/13/19 at 10:34 am to
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3181 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 10:34 am to
The Church has been protecting them for a long time.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 10:39 am to
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I’m telling you that if the members of my church found out that generations of children had been sexually abused by preachers, not only would the overwhelming majority not go there or give them money, they would likely burn the damn church to the ground.
Well I would hope so, since all your money goes right into that preacher's pocket. And spare me the "Baptists are more morally right" bullshite. Half my family is Baptist/non-denominational. I hear about all the shite that goes on there too.

Shall I tell you about the preacher who was trying his hardest to steal my fairly newly-widowed mother and get her to invest all of her savings and retirement into his Church? Or how about the other one who cast my mother away from his Church after my dad died and she needed him the most, all because he found out that she attended a Catholic mass a few times? Yet, he was open and willing to take (steal) her tithing, no questions asked. And then there's the preacher who fricked around on his wife and slept with the 18 year old intern receptionist - and conveniently decided to move on because "God was calling him to live somewhere else", all while he did damage to his family and to an 18 year old girl. My mom bounces between Catholicism and being Baptist, and she's Catholic again because she's tired of all the bullshite that comes from the Baptist side too.

Point is, there is ugly shite that goes on everywhere. Doesn't matter what denomination. If you are as Christian as you portray yourself to be...you'd realize that Jesus took a nail in each wrist for us, because of that. Not saying that as an excuse. But as a society, we all sin and we're sick. Some are much sicker than others, and they get to pay the consequences for their actions in one way or another. But that's a whole other discussion.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 10:48 am to
The difference in all of that being at no time did the church hierarchy cover it all up, pay off the victims, or keep the preacher in the fold and enable him by sending him to a new church and new members to abuse. How can you not get that?
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 11:49 am to
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Come on man. That's a loaded question


It's not a loaded question. It's the exact same thing. Do you want to be a part of an organization that covers up child rape?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 12:25 pm to
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no time did the church hierarchy cover it all up,
Bull fricking shite. If I knew you, I'd let you talk to my mother about the way she was treated, and the with the other thing I talked about. You'd need to reserve an entire afternoon because that woman can talk, but she'd let you know every detail.

Look, I don't agree with the way this was handled by the Church, and I for damn sure don't agree with the actual acts themselves and feel that the priests who did it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I do have a problem, though, in condemning the whole church, the people who attend the church, and getting all high and mighty in your approach. Turn off the Baptist thing for just a day, and try not to be so judgmental towards other denominations. Judge individuals, not the whole thing. I know it's Baptist chic to hate on all things Catholic (which at some point you gotta ask yourself if the Man himself would be ok with you being hateful like that), but just for a day try to turn it off.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 12:33 pm to
You don't know what a loaded question is. Look it up and get back to me. And no, it's not the exact same thing. My church does not employ me nor do my kids' next meal depend on the church paying me based on my services.

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Do you want to be a part of an organization that covers up child rape?

I mean, the obvious fricking answer is no, ding a ling.


But you're asking that question to lead me to a point, which is exactly what a loaded question is. Your point is based on 5% of the big picture. There is a lot more to it than just that. For me to simply answer yes or no does not complete the big picture, and it does not mean that I agree that your point is complete either.

Do you want to live in a country that's ok with invading and killing innocent women and children in a foreign country - all to provide defense contractors with business and for a strategic position on the world's crude oil supply?


See how there's a real obvious answer to that? See how there's so much more to it than just that though?



There is a lot of good that the Catholic Church does, and there are terrific priests out there and parishes who do everything the right way. Mine is one of those. You don't poo poo over that because of the shortcomings of a few individuals near or at the top and/or in a parish where the priest is a terrible person.





This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 12:41 pm
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8172 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 12:54 pm to
Went to mass this morning and it was glorious. I need Christ, I yearn for my savior. I received him in the eurcharist, and what an awesome gift.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:01 pm to
Dude, I was raised a Baptist, but I’m not one. I have a problem with all religions, and religious doctrine, so you can stop with that any time. You say you feel like the offending priests SHOULD be prosecuted. Well they haven’t been, and your church has told you to your face that they don’t give a shite what you think should happen.

The only thing I’m being hateful toward is child abusing priests, and the church hierarchy and Catholics who cover up and enable it on behalf of the church and it’s image and power. If I have to answer for it to God, then so be it.
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Do you want to live in a country that's ok with invading and killing innocent women and children....etc etc etc


No I don't. But moving to another country is not an option. Quitting a church or an employer is a bit easier.

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There is a lot of good that the Catholic Church does


There's a lot of good that Planned Parenthood does, but they do some real bad shite too.

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shortcomings of a few individuals


This is the typical Catholic response. Act like this is no big deal. Look the other way. This problem is worldwide and involves tens of thousands of children over decades. Your denial does not lessen it's impact.

Keep giving money to them though so they can pay for all these legal fees to protect these rapists.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85435 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:56 pm to
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Maybe. But, would any other organizations cover it up en masse like the church did/does? That’s just as evil IMO.



Penn State.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:14 pm to
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Penn State.


And how many times worse comparatively does that make the Catholic Church? How many kids were abused at Penn State?
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8622 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:23 pm to
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My take, as a catholic, is that evil frickers across all demographics molest kids.


True.

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Catholic priests probably did it with with quite a bit more frequency than the general population.


Is this true? I'm not sure. But.....below is what really matters:

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The church’s response to the problem has been absolutely sickening


I cannot agree with this statement enough. I can't get past the way this has all gone down.

And I say this all, like you, as a Catholic.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:26 pm to
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There is a lot of good that the Catholic Church does, and there are terrific priests out there and parishes who do everything the right way. Mine is one of those


Many of the parishioners of the abusive priests were probably saying the exact same thing about their priest.
Posted by BayouBuster
Mathews, la.
Member since Aug 2009
490 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:52 pm to
troyt37 did you get your wee wee touched by a priest or are you just an Idiot??
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 3:59 pm to
Nope, I just think that people who abuse kids deserve a miserable if not sudden death, and those who enable them are almost as big a piece of shite as they are. So since you asked me, are you a kid fricking priest, or one of the sheep that helps them continue to frick kids?

Yeah, a down vote. The bitch response. I’ve been in a half dozen of these threads, trying to get Catholics to put kids above their almighty church, without giving anyone the bitch response.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 5:53 pm to
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The church needs to return to its practices before Vatican 2 and the sexual revolution destroyed it.


What are you referring to exactly?

(serious question)
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 6:21 pm to
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It’s funny to see the contrast on the OT between a story where a Muslim commits a crime and a story where a catholic priest commits a crime.

Don’t see near as many posters who extrapolate the priests actions to make a sweeping generalization about the religion they come from.




Please point me to where in the Christian doctrine molestation of boys by men can be interpreted by anyone to be acceptably done in the name of Jesus.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 6:23 pm
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 6:33 pm to
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How old were you when a priest first touched your butthole?


it's sad to instantly think about it, but it is one of the first factors I think about when I wonder "what made this person hate christianity so bad??" there are the ones that just had it so heavily pushed on them as children or just someone took advantage of them in a negative way.
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 6:42 pm to
Guys, the saints are on.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 7:23 pm to
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I do have a problem, though, in condemning the whole church, the people who attend the church, and getting all high and mighty in your approach. Turn off the Baptist thing for just a day, and try not to be so judgmental towards other denominations. Judge individuals, not the whole thing. I know it's Baptist chic to hate on all things Catholic (which at some point you gotta ask yourself if the Man himself would be ok with you being hateful like that), but just for a day try to turn it off.


Kind of doing what you say not to do with the whole "I know it's a Batist chic to hate Cathloics"

Btw i'm southern baptist
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