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re: Hospitals confirm mistakes in Florida’s COVID-19 report

Posted on 7/14/20 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 6:27 pm to
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Lab gets paid for their services whether test is negative or positive.


Wouldn't this be motivation to document and report all tests, rather than just the positive ones?
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 6:28 pm to
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Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Lowe. I've always been a fan of your talents on the dobro.


Thank ya, thank ya, unfortunately I drink too much wine.
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 6:35 pm to
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Wouldn't this be motivation to document and report all tests, rather than just the positive ones?


In theory yes, but a lab that is swamped in tests to process will devote more resources to getting the work done and reporting positives immediately, as is required and/or mandated by the states. The negative test results will get reported - they are just not the priority.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 6:39 pm to
I'm not sure what you think the logistics of reporting tests and results are, but that doesn't really make sense in a digital world. Depending on their systems, it might even be more cumbersome to only send positive results to the state. If that's what they are doing, it's not to save time.
Posted by Summer of George
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:02 pm to
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Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:11 pm to
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In theory yes, but a lab that is swamped in tests to process will devote more resources to getting the work done and reporting positives immediately, as is required and/or mandated by the states. The negative test results will get reported - they are just not the priority.


Most of these places have only run a handful of tests. Those in particular are not swamped.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:19 pm to
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Oifieldbiology had a very apt answer if you need assistance in formulating one of your own.


Awww shite. What did I say?
Posted by tigamike
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:21 pm to
100% of the positive test were positive!
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12807 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:32 pm to
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It is becoming more and more apparent that the total case count is bull shite and anyone who makes any decision on a case count or cries about it is a fricking retard or just looking to score political points.



Or that these noon data dumps you and I see aren’t worth our time while the stats and health experts making decisions are likely looking at much richer data points then the OT daily grid updates.

The news of course not eager to point out there daily updates that we all rush to click are of relatively limited value
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1740 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 8:07 pm to
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Awww shite. What did I say?
quote:

My OP:
Please explain what is the incentive received by anyone from an error in reporting an error in the number of positive cases. Its not like someone is paying money per positive case.

Your Response:

You have to be willing to dive into political conspiracies but a lot of people in government positions want the economy shut down.


You know the old tinfoil and hyperbole dog and pony show.

Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 8:18 pm to
Do you get more federal dollars when you have a positive case to deal with?

An acquaintance of mine has COVID-19 and works for the state. Basically the federal government gives the state two-weeks pay so they just told her to stay home for two weeks and then come back in whether she's still got it or not. Its unclear if it'll be remote work but the emphasis was clearly on maximizing federal funds.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42807 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 8:31 pm to
Honest question, why do they have to prioritize reporting? They don’t have to report who tested positive to the state do they?

I just don’t get why they can’t submit raw totals of positive and negative at the end of the day. Why do negative tests lag?
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1740 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:00 pm to
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Honest question, why do they have to prioritize reporting? They don’t have to report who tested positive to the state do they?

I just don’t get why they can’t submit raw totals of positive and negative at the end of the day. Why do negative tests lag?




What I know:

The states are prioritizing positive result reporting to quarantine and try to mitigate the spread of covid.

Yes, both labs and hospitals report to the state electronically.


There are lags from sample collection to processing to reporting on cases. The states report on Monday data received for Sunday, and so on....

Labs report once tests are processed and input. Collection dates on said tests will cover a range of days. Been tracking GA's daily reporting that is being backfilled to date of symptom onset (if no symptoms to a heirarchy of criteria including date of collection). While some of the cases reported in a given day will date back further than 14 days over 90% fall within the 14 day range with a majority in the last week. The date of reporting will be low numbers for that day, a small increase to the numbers of the previous day and then substantial increases for the next several days up to day 14.

Death reporting lags at a minimum 2 to 3 days from date of death. Autopsy and death certificates, yada yada yada.


What I think I know:

The big lab corps are getting tests in droves from all over the country for processing. Early on LA tests were lagging because processing of a large batch of tests were being processed by Quest Diagnostics in California.

I would imagine that the logistics are a nightmare and with all states wanting immediate info on positive results same are prioritized for data entry for reporting purposes.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:17 pm to
Maybe the positives process quicker? Eg. If the reagent changes color its positive, but you have to leave the sample in the reagent for 24 hours to call it negative. Some pop positive immediately and others are not classified until confirmed negative.

I don't have any idea and really have no dog in it. This just seemed plausible.
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