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re: Hospital pushing discharge for my 70 y/o parent who is COVID positive and hasn't improved
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:15 pm to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:15 pm to Pandy Fackler
Then we will agree to disagree in this situation. Under normal protocol, I would agree with you.
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:19 pm to Pandy Fackler
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How the frick would know? You're a goddamn lawyer.
You are irrational and unhinged and a liability.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:24 pm to LSUFAITHFUL
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I hope you don’t work at mine. You are irrational and unhinged and a liability.
Bruh, you dumb lawyer. Anytime someone exercises their rights, it's not a waste of time or resources.
KKK rally that costs a municipality thousands in security costs? Not a waste.
Suing the federal government for access into Area 51 requiring thousands in litigation and process fees and costs? Not a waste.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:26 pm to Antonio Moss
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If it were actual concerns based on evidence, sure. Not, "she is running a temperature and feels bad" emotion "so the doctors must be wrong."
Help me understand what the following facts have to do with emotion?
-COVID positive and in the higher risk group due to age
-double pneumonia in both lungs
-Unable to walk on her own (was able to on admission day)
-Not eating
-Running high fever (anything above 101 per CDC guidelines) - was not running fever at admission
-No improvements in any area in 3-4 days
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:27 pm to El Segundo Guy
(no message)
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:28 pm to Antonio Moss
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Bruh, you dumb lawyer. Anytime someone exercises their rights, it's not a waste of time or resources.
Bruh, you have reading comprehension problems. I said 99% of the time people exercising their rights IS a waste of time.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:29 pm to Walt OReilly
quote:I would pick not dying, which it seems should be the outcome here if everything goes well.
I think I’d rather be by moms side at home before she passed then her being in some hospital that I don’t have access to and she dies alone
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:32 pm to LSUFAITHFUL
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Because I work in-house for a hospital after practicing healthcare law for 20 years. I hope you don’t work at mine. You are irrational and unhinged and a liability.
I think you're a fricking liar but if you aren't. Then this explains why the likes of you don't want people exercising their appeal rights.
You're a fricking sack 'a peanutty shite that wouldn't hesitate to loophole the law or any bureaucratic regulation to suit your own needs in the hospital you claim to work in or the needs of someone you love.
Go frick your own mouth.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:33 pm to LSUFAITHFUL
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Bruh, you have reading comprehension problems. I said 99% of the time people exercising their rights IS a waste of time.
I was being facetious. I whole-heartedly agree with everything you said.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:34 pm to Pandy Fackler
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I think you're a fricking liar but if you aren't. Then this explains why the likes of you don't want people exercising their appeal rights.
You're a fricking sack 'a peanutty shite that wouldn't hesitate to loophole the law or any bureaucratic regulation to suit your own needs in the hospital you claim to work in or the needs of someone you love.
Go frick your own mouth.
How very professional.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:35 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Man, two days ago i asked a physician if he was sure he wanted to discharge a patient home with unimproved bilateral/multilobar pneumonia, a rm air Sp02 of 87% and fever of 101.0. The plan was to d/c this patient with home iv antibiotics and home 02.
hmmm . . . .
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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I think you're a fricking liar but if you aren't. Then this explains why the likes of you don't want people exercising their appeal rights. You're a fricking sack 'a peanutty shite that wouldn't hesitate to loophole the law or any bureaucratic regulation to suit your own needs in the hospital you claim to work in or the needs of someone you love. Go frick your own mouth.
You continue to prove me right. You are irrational, unhinged, and a liability.
Literally all I’ve said is if she doesn’t meet the well established criteria to be admitted for pneumonia, she needs to rest at home until she does. You are a lunatic.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:39 pm to wope
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-Unable to walk on her own (was able to on admission day)
Being in your position, to me, that's important because it shows a baseline of sorts of her abilities before going in the hospital. That is regression, not stability.
What she has going on is a lot more than just "feeling bad" as some posters have tried to say. Now, that doesn't mean that those with more serious issues than "feeling bad" aren't discharged to go home in many cases, but this version of the virus is new and there isn't as much experience with it even with professionals who are currently dealing with it. I don't think you're being really unreasonable in your feelings to prolong her stay a little bit more.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:45 pm to Antonio Moss
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quote:
Man, two days ago i asked a physician if he was sure he wanted to discharge a patient home with unimproved bilateral/multilobar pneumonia, a rm air Sp02 of 87% and fever of 101.0. The plan was to d/c this patient with home iv antibiotics and home 02.
hmmm . . . .
You seem to doubt that.
That's cool with me.
Just remember. If you're ever in a situation where a hospital wants you or someone you love out and as a laymen or healthcare professional, you have doubts. Exercise your appeal rights.
I'm trying to be a friend to you right now, actually anyone who's reading this. If you have doubts, don't trust a hospital to get this right. Their interests are often incongruent with yours.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:47 pm to Pandy Fackler
I also can’t wait until you frick something up royally at work. And you will, because you are unstable and irrational, and you need a lawyer to fix whatever steaming pile of shite you got yourself into.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:50 pm to Pandy Fackler
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You seem to doubt that.
That's cool with me.
Just remember. If you're ever in a situation where a hospital wants you or someone you love out and as a laymen or healthcare professional, you have doubts. Exercise your appeal rights.
I'm trying to be a friend to you right now, actually anyone who's reading this. If you have doubts, don't trust a hospital to get this right. Their interests are often incongruent with yours.
Doubts?
How did you get that from my post?
I highlighted the most important part of your post - 87% SpO2 - to point out that it is completely different than the situation in the OP. That is the criteria for further treatment.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:51 pm to Big EZ Tiger
quote:
quote:
-Unable to walk on her own (was able to on admission day)
Being in your position, to me, that's important because it shows a baseline of sorts of her abilities before going in the hospital. That is regression, not stability.
What she has going on is a lot more than just "feeling bad" as some posters have tried to say. Now, that doesn't mean that those with more serious issues than "feeling bad" aren't discharged to go home in many cases, but this version of the virus is new and there isn't as much experience with it even with professionals who are currently dealing with it. I don't think you're being really unreasonable in your feelings to prolong her stay a little bit more.
Stop making sense.
David Byrne 1984.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:56 pm to Antonio Moss
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Doubts?
How did you get that from my post?
I highlighted the most important part of your post - 87% SpO2 - to point out that it is completely different than the situation in the OP. That is the criteria for further treatment.
The "Hmmm" thew me off.
Yes it is indeed and it really illustrates how easy it is for seemingly intelligent and often well educated people get this wrong man.
That's why when people have reasonable doubts (and the OP has a reasonable doubt) then they should absolutely exercise their appeal rights. Assuming they have them at all.
It's just foolish not to.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:57 pm to El Segundo Guy
Never mind, forgot to refresh the thread 
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:04 pm to LSUFAITHFUL
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I also can’t wait until you frick something up royally at work. And you will, because you are unstable and irrational, and you need a lawyer to fix whatever steaming pile of shite you got yourself into.
Twenty plus years and I haven't fricked anything up yet.
Don't get sore at me man.
You're a veiny, engorged phallus. I didn't make you that way. Some are born veiny, engorged phalluses, some achieve veiny, engorged phallus and some have veiny, engorged phallus thrust upon them.
I think you acheived it.
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