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re: Homeowner arrested after tense standoff with squatters

Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:16 pm to
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I mean there's threads and stories all the time that say otherwise.

I wasn't reciting any law, I was giving my opinion to his question or statement of "how long" should be allowed.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:16 pm to
I gotcha. I agree. It's pretty unreal its even a thing
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58062 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:18 pm to
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The law should be that squatters have no rights and will be arrested for trespass and evicted unless they have a good faith basis for being there based upon a writing from the owner.
yes, this is what it should be
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7544 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:18 pm to
Florida is changing theirs.
quote:

House Bill 621 authorizes property owners to request action by the sheriff's office to immediately remove squatters from your home. The bill passed overwhelmingly in the Florida senate last week. Before this bill is signed into law, squatters are considered tenants in the eyes of the law. Now, squatters will soon face criminal charges for violating what was once within their rights. Senator Keith Perry led the charge on HB621, which allows property owners to file an affidavit showing the property doesn't belong to those who are occupying it. The bill creates stiff penalties for violators, like a 2nd degree felony for damage to a home and a 1st degree felony for fraudulently selling or leasing the property. The sheriff is required to serve the notice and remove unwanted occupants without delay


Looks like Georgia is also working on improving their squatter laws.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:19 pm to
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I gotcha. I agree. It's pretty unreal its even a thing

Probably mentioned in this thread already, i only skimmed over parts of it, but similar to civil asset forfeiture


Just a couple of things I can't wrap my brain around why these are allowed to be "valid" laws in 2024.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179042 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:19 pm to
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lol @ you thinking this is just a blue state thing


Squatting is not a blue state issue only. It happens all over.

The craziness of not allowing the police to remove and/or arrest the people that day is mostly a blue state issue. The legal hurdles you have to go through are more cumbersome in blue states too. In TX, LA, MS, etc we can have them out the same day. In NY the cops won't touch it. Same in NJ, PA, CT, etc.

Again, I deal with it in a lot of states and it is way harder in liberal states. That's a fact. None of them are as extreme as Cali.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53479 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:19 pm to
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geez. just shoot them and go bury the bodies. No one would know they were missing anyway.


But they might get the Saint George Floyd treatment if you did that
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16746 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:20 pm to
Good explanation but pretty silly for 2024. Maybe the English should keep Prima Nocta going.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18667 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:21 pm to
It’s insane that you can be charged for unlawful eviction when these bums break in.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24925 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:24 pm to
Stupid liberals and leftists have created this situation when such things could all be settled in short order with the squatters arrested for breaking and entering.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:25 pm to
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It’s insane that you can be charged for unlawful eviction when these bums break in.

Yea, that's one of the many parts I don't understand.

Even if we assume or concede all the nonsensical parts of this and that squatter has rights, that squatter still factually had to unlawfully enter your home, so even if you go through all of the shite that comes with them having rights and/or you trying to get them evicted, they should always be arrested for some type of unlawful entry/breaking & entering type law. They couldn't get to where they are without breaking that law.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4070 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Someone please explain to me (a rational explanation) how this is a thing. How is it not trespassing? Help me understand so I won’t think I’m losing my mind.


DEMOCRATS

The head of the snake has allowed 8+million squatters into your backyard. shite rolls downhill.

Trespassing?
More like breaking & entering/illegal entry, they didn’t magically portal into any of these private properties.

You’re not losing your mind, but you are losing your country right in front of your eyes.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Stupid liberals and leftists have created this situation when such things could all be settled in short order with the squatters arrested for breaking and entering.

As stout just pointed out, it may be easier to evict them in conversation areas, but they aren't being arrested for breaking and entering. That's the entirety of the problem.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179042 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:27 pm to
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It’s insane that you can be charged for unlawful eviction when these bums break in.


They produce a fake lease. That is the issue. It then has to go to court to prove the lease is fake. That takes time in a shithole like NY.

Thankfully in LA you can get a hearing within a week or two depending on when you file, Also, in LA you can evict for any reason stating you just want the property back if there is no lease or the lease has run out. After the court date, you can have the sheriff on site within a week or so. At most you can have someone out just under 30 days in LA if the cops say it's a civil matter and refuse to remove the squatter. I dealt with it in a vancat rental of mine about 3 months ago. It's also fairly cheap.

In CA or NY you will be lucky to even get a hearing in less than 60 days and not at a huge financial cost.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179042 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:28 pm to
quote:


It’s insane that you can be charged for unlawful eviction when these bums break in.


It's worse than that. You can get charged if you shut off the utilities in your name to force them to leave. So in some states the owners get stuck paying the bills for months while the legal process plays out.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11822 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:30 pm to
Pew pew
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22442 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:30 pm to
NYC has thousands of new professional squatters to put those laws to the test.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138113 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:33 pm to
GOP needs to pay some people to squat AOC's place and see what happens.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45822 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:34 pm to
Squatters are like bugs, and should be squashed for the same reason.
Posted by rundmcrun
Member since Jan 2024
300 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:36 pm to
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will NEVER understand the concept of "squatter's rights".

Why do these blue states allow this?


"Hey if you vote me into office I will help pass laws that have zero effect on me but will let you live in someone else's home for virtually free"

What's so hard to understand here? It's a business transaction.
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