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Home AC compressor won't start: Any ideas from the OT crowd? FIXED

Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:15 am
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:15 am
Realized this when we got home last night. The exterior fan is running, but the compressor attempts to start, but immediately shuts down.

Ideas?

1. Bad starting capacitor? (..or is this related only to the fan?)
2. Frozen Compressor?

The outside unit was replaced around 2 years ago.

Of course, this shite happens on a Saturday night so any chance of me getting a part for a DIY today is almost out of the question.

This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted by 8miles
slidell
Member since Oct 2005
5653 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:22 am to
Turn ac off and just let the fan run for an hour or so. It may be frozen up.
Posted by Donkeypunch
Georgia
Member since Jun 2007
1421 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:23 am to
You should have a dual capacitor on a residential unit (unless for some odd reason you have three phase power to your house).

Make sure the capacitor is good and that you have both legs of power. If you don't know how to safely use a meter, call a professional.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47131 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:23 am to
It is not. One of the first things I tried.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
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47131 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:27 am to
I'm about to head outside and pull the fuse block to start trouble shooting it.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4053 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:32 am to
Capacitor or your system is low on refrigerant and the low pressure switch is kicking on. I'm guessing the latter. $56 for a manifold gauge set at harbor freight and a good multimeter that can test capacitors and you could diagnose and get it running yourself for less than the price of a tech visit.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:41 am to
Capacitor or your system is low on refrigerant and the low pressure switch is kicking on. I'm guessing the latter. $56 for a manifold gauge set at harbor freight and a good multimeter that can test capacitors and you could diagnose and get it running yourself for less than the price of a tech visit.

Dis right here.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47131 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:46 am to
The coils in the inside unit were not freezing prior to the compressor not starting, though.

And the question is: Where can I get a new capacitor on a Sunday if it is shot?
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 6:56 am
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39115 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:15 am to
quote:

Where can I get a new capacitor on a Sunday if it is shot?


I got one on Sunday at Ace Hardware a few years ago. It was about $25. Bring the old one with you so you can match numbers.

I bought two so I have an extra on hand. This guarantees that they will not malfunction again.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47131 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:30 am to
Thanks. I'll go later.

Which location?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43551 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:38 am to
Also check the contactor.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3974 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Also check the contactor.

^This right here. My a/c was doing the same thing, the contactor was welding shut. Inside wouldn't kick on, but outside kept running. All it takes is one measly ant to walk across the contact and it'll create a weld.
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 7:47 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:43 am to
Probably have a coolant leak.
The timing is about right for that to show up...it takes a couple of months of running under high pressure for it to show up.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:44 am to
There is a capacitor for the compressor as well.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:48 am to
quote:

new capacitor


Any electric motor shop should have them for under $20.

The problem is, capacitor malfunction is typically a symptom rather than the cause. If you're fouling capacitors, your motor is probably going bad.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39115 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:48 am to
quote:

Which location?




I actually live in The Green Swamp, about 700 miles from BR. Sorry.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47131 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:52 am to
Dang.. I'll call around when they open.
Posted by FISH N TIGER
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
1165 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 8:05 am to
Does the fan come on ?
also before you do anything check and see if the contactor is stuck, this is common in older units, be sure you pull the disconnect first, if it has burnt spots from arcing you may can file it down some to get you buy but i would replace it when you can
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47131 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 8:06 am to
Fan is running, compressor is not.
Posted by FISH N TIGER
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
1165 posts
Posted on 7/2/17 at 8:11 am to
ok good then its the contactor,capacitor,or compressor is locked up. only other thing you can check is if the pan in attic is full of water,there is a float switch that will shut off the unit if so.
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