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re: Hollygrove residents oppose new community center over racial differences

Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:32 am to
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:32 am to
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8 pounds of Coke

They must not even use the metric system for their illicit substances. poors gonna poor.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:33 am to
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why are eyebrows raised when a black family moves into a middle class white neighborhood and the residents know nothing about this family other than their color?

depending on the culture presented, this is more myth than reality...ESPECIALLY in the deep south
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:37 am to
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why are eyebrows raised when a black family moves into a middle class white neighborhood
why do you give one single frick about "Raised Eyebrow"?

What the frick does a raised eyebrow have to do with anything?

You are just making shite up again.

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might want to keep small community based and local churches run by local pastors


And lawyers too huh?

Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26447 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:41 am to
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Their reaction is foolish and divisive. On the other hand, if a group wanted to open a mega dollar store or a gym for inner city BREC games around the country club of Louisiana, their reaction would be similar. They might not use the same words, but your reasons would be the same.

No, actually the reasons would be quite the opposite. Building a community center in the slums would actually increase property values for that area (although they all probably rent) and building a BREC center near CCL would depreciate property value. That would be justification for deterring the BREC center from building nearby.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135036 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:41 am to
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Actually jt is the haters who see blacks as a homogeneous group, ridden with crime and drugs.


I'd argue that it's not so much "black people" as "good people".

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classism is alive and kicking. But let's not pretend that discrimination based solely on skin color is not alive and kicking too.


Maybe it's because, dude to demographics and the ignomious stain of history, in some areas class and color intertwine to a high degree.

Let's not pretend that black professionals who comport themselves with class are seen as the same as some ghetto trash walking around in curlers and bunny slippers with a little chocolate rainbow of kids behind them buying boiled crawfish with an EBT card.

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While this is true, why are eyebrows raised when a black family moves into a middle class white neighborhood and the residents know nothing about this family other than their color?


Conditioning. There is a very basal, subconscious primal instinct that kicks in when an "other" comes into our "territory". That's with almost any animal species. Until the unknown is a known all we have to go on is appearance and experience.

Same reason one might lock their doors in a neighborhood that looks like it's out of "thuggin' it and lovin' it", even if they've never been there. It's a natural reaction. That reaction will either be vindicated or proven false.

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Also, has it occurred to you the folks from the area do not want a mega-church. But instead might want to keep small community based and local churches run by local pastors that are reflective of their own religion and values?


Sure, but that's not what was communicated.


Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26447 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:45 am to
You guys forget how much Tangerine likes to troll.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:46 am to
no, Lucasp likes to troll. This guy has a vendetta.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:56 am to
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why are eyebrows raised when a black family moves into a middle class white neighborhood and the residents know nothing about this family other than their color?


You enjoy making up bullshite scenarios to fit your narrative?

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But instead might want to keep small community based and local churches run by local pastors that are reflective of their own religion and values?


Has anyone said these have to go?

Had anyone echoed this sentiment before you decided to make it up out of thin air?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82435 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:02 am to
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FIFY. How long you been singing that wrong lyric, bruh?


Probably autocorrect.
Posted by Brightside Bengal
New Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3968 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:13 am to
Ok, believe it or not, the residents sort of have a point. You have to understand exactly where this center would be located....



That area is tucked in between NOCC, Airline, & I-10. While still low income, I wouldn't even consider it Hollygrove. It is far more stable, secluded, and with less crime than real hollygrove on the other side of airline. Within the red circle, there are actually a couple blocks of very expensive "white folk" homes bordering I-10 near the entrance of NOCC.

The bottom line is that while a community center is never bad, i think the residents know that their tiny neighborhood doesn't need it nearly as much as the real hollygrove areas nearby. They probably see the interest of outsiders as early attempts to redevelop their neighborhood, which because of the unique location, is ripe for the taking.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26538 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:13 am to
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"The idea that people who don't look like us want to invest in our neighborhood is bad is really troubling to me," said Commissioner Nolan Marshall III, who is black. "Quite honestly, we don't invest enough in our neighborhoods ourselves."

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Marshall cast the lone vote against granting the church the permits it needs to operate the center

A community motivated by racism and being lead by racists.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26234 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:17 am to
Easy solution: don't invest and let the neighborhood continue to go to shite
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Member since Jan 2010
5034 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:20 am to
meh

classic example of the unsilent minority (not racist...but based on the article, it seems that there really aren't many opposed to the thing)
Posted by MSG
B.R.
Member since Dec 2007
11279 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:21 am to
I'm a 17th ninja, got that hollygrove in me..
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