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Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:10 am to Eurocat
I wonder how many people got caught on wrong side and couldnt get home.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:35 am to Breaux
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But the tards say it was intentional.
Yeah this is one where once the actual info came out it pretty much shut down any chance of nefariousness. It's just bad luck.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:37 am to LSUFanHouston
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Are dolphins going to be standard from here on out? I read in the other thread that they might not have even saved this bridge.
The ship did eventually come to a stop upon impact. But the dolphins mignt need to be massive for them to work.
I know they’re strong swimmers, but you’d need a lot of dolphins to stop a ship that size. Maybe some whales could help.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:38 am to fr33manator
I’m pretty sure that with a ship of that size, the rudders need the propellers wash to maintain steerage.
This isn’t a sailing vessel where the rudder really extends far from the profile of the hull vertically
This isn’t a sailing vessel where the rudder really extends far from the profile of the hull vertically
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:39 am to Eurocat
I think they have to, it doesn't exist anymore
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:39 am to LSUFanHouston
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I wonder if those two tugs, had they stayed, could have manuvered the ship away from the bridge support.
I'm shocked that that boat was able to get up to the speed it was going between the port and the bridge.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:45 am to Volvagia
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I’m pretty sure that with a ship of that size, the rudders need the propellers wash to maintain steerage.
This isn’t a sailing vessel where the rudder really extends far from the profile of the hull vertically
Yeah I was thinking the same thing.. I would think a container ship this large needs propulsion to steer anyway, especially at low speeds.
But I could be wrong, would be curious to hear from someone who knows more about these types of vessels.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:54 am to lostinbr
I mean real steering, sure, but you Might get a little control.
Really you'd need several redundant systems to keep any real control I guess. Probably not economically feasible
Really you'd need several redundant systems to keep any real control I guess. Probably not economically feasible
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:04 pm to Eurocat
So why didn’t they build protection around the pylons? They figured that out quick after Tampa, you would think that all bridges would be forced to retrofit them in. Got to love useless azz government.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:10 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The ship did eventually come to a stop upon impact. But the dolphins mignt need to be massive for them to work.
I did hear folks saying nothing man made would work, and had to point out something man made did stop it- just a matter of whether that structure to stop/steer the vessel would be viable to expect on these paths.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:41 pm to NoSaint
If the tugs peeled off I wonder if they could have hauled arse had they been asked, and got there in time? Didn’t the crisis start 4 minutes prior to hit? No idea speed of tugs at full power nor if they could have steered it away enough, just a question of if anyone contacted them at first signs of trouble.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:45 pm to Loup
shite happens and we learn from them.
Posted on 3/28/24 at 1:02 pm to Volvagia
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I’m pretty sure that with a ship of that size, the rudders need the propellers wash to maintain steerage.
This isn’t a sailing vessel where the rudder really extends far from the profile of the hull vertically
Correct, the ship needs the propulsion from the props to effectively steer it, otherwise as the forwards momentum is lessened after the props stop, the current and wind will then push the ship in their downward direction regardless of the rudder tilt. The sides of the ship above the waterline and cargo boxes stacked on its deck act as giant sails. The current can be ripping during tidal changes as well.
They were fricked as soon as the power was lost
This post was edited on 3/28/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:34 pm to fr33manator
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I mean real steering, sure, but you Might get a little control.
We are literally saying that’s not how it works, but you are still saying you feel it might help “a little.”
Jumping overboard and pushing will give you about as “little control.”
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