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re: history discussion on why SC and Georgia are nicer/classier than Alabama and Mississippi
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:13 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:13 pm to TigerintheNO
You can leave southern Louisiana completely out of this discussion cause it’s irrelevant. Northern Louisiana makes my point though, it’s just a mix of southern Arkansas and Mississippi lol
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:14 pm to justaniceguy
quote:There were many people of French descent (and Spanish and German descent) inhabiting present day southern Louisiana before the Acadians arrived.
(and probably most people from Louisiana, Alabama, Texas, and Mississippi that aren’t Cajun) had to settle west to claim their own land.
So, that part of your theory doesn't really work. Most people who settled in south Louisiana weren't heading West from Virginia, Georgia, and the Carolinas.
People who later migrated internally from within the US tended to come from the Midwest.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:15 pm to Epaminondas
Talking more about northern Louisiana
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:17 pm to justaniceguy
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It seems to me as somebody from texas that the people of South Carolina and Georgia are in general more uppity, classy, dress nicer, rich, better manners, even the accent, etc than their southern brothers in the western states. Have you ever pondered about why this is?
One of the most affluent, "successful" families in South Carolina just had all their dirty little secrets laid bare for all the world to see. They talked real nice like, wore dem fancy clothes, and threw all sorts of big shindigs......yet were far trashier than most redneck families in any given Alabama or Mississippi trailer park.
Trash isn't confined to any state or socio-economic group. Trash is universal.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:18 pm to justaniceguy
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The coastal cities in South Carolina and Georgia are probably worse than the ones more inland
WTF? Lots of money on the coast
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:20 pm to teke184
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Georgia, OTOH, was a debtor colony similar to Australia.
That experiment lasted less than 20 years, for two main reasons. The imported silk worms didn't work out and slavery was illegal. England revoked Oglethorpe's utopian charter and made it a royal colony like the others. Cotton and Slavery were much more profitable to the King of England.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:22 pm to deeprig9
If it was changed after 20 years, it was still a debtor colony and initially populated by them. And the changeover was about 20-25 years before the revolution.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:24 pm to deeprig9
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Start at the top right corner of the state on the Atlantic, draw a line going 7 miles inland, then draw that line 7 miles inland to the bottom of the state. Now use a giant exacto knife to cut that part of the state off. Now, South Carolina is no classier than MS or AL.
Removing Myrtle Beach from SC makes SC much classier...
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:29 pm to teke184
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If it was changed after 20 years, it was still a debtor colony and initially populated by them. And the changeover was about 20-25 years before the revolution.
All of whom lived within 20 miles of the coast, particularly around Savannah, a tiny fraction of the overall state today. The majority of the state was indian country. It wasn't until 1785 that whites even made it to the Oconee River in Athens.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:32 pm to PJinAtl
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had a heavy French influence that carried over well after the formation of the United States. Georgia and South Carolina were English colonies and nothing else.
South Carolina had a big time French Huguenot presence, a lot of it just faded earlier than it did in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:33 pm to justaniceguy
I don't think SC is as good as you think it is.
I'd take AL over SC anyday.
I'd take AL over SC anyday.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:36 pm to GetCocky11
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South Carolina had a big time French Huguenot presence
Yep.
The French and Spanish were all over the SC/GA coasts long before the English. There are accounts of British explorers writing about ancient Spanish mission ruins up and down the coast, they were writing in the late 1600's/early 1700's about 100+ year old oyster shell churches previously made by the Spanish in the 1500's.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:42 pm to deeprig9
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they were writing in the late 1600's/early 1700's about 100+ year old oyster shell churches previously made by the Spanish in the 1500's.
de Soto's expedition went right through central SC, the Spanish had a colony on the coast for like 20 years, and yes there was a mission network setup.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:43 pm to OysterPoBoy
Bama has some real nice areas. Miss not so much.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:56 pm to LegendInMyMind
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One of the most affluent, "successful" families in South Carolina
The Murdaugh’s were not this. They were medium fish in a tiny pond. They controlled their little corner and ran every relevant business out of town but their game was an easy one to never play. There are far more wealthy and influential families in Charleston, Beaufort, Columbia, and Greenville.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:02 pm to AlextheBodacious
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The Murdaugh’s were not this. They were medium fish in a tiny pond. They controlled their little corner and ran every relevant business out of town but their game was an easy one to never play. There are far more wealthy and influential families in Charleston, Beaufort, Columbia, and Greenville.
OT-Lounge and Netflix made them famous. Before they got caught up in murder cases, they were just upper middle class assholes.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Migration of the Scots Irish versus the more refined English subjects
You're on to something there although I admit to being mostly Scots-Irish. My family came in through Charleston in the late 17th century. My wife's family is entirely Irish and they migrated in through Charleston a decade or so earlier than mine.
Charlestonians have always fancied ourselves as "refined" but very few of the old original families still live there. We all migrated westward ... my family to Georgia, then Kentucky and then Tennessee. Even my maternal side is still here in SC although some migrated to Texas, where my mother was born and raised.
Most whom migrated out west were of a more .... "gambling" nature. I thought 1883 did a good job of illustrating that. Many were escaping post war of Northern Agression Yankee rule and tyranny so they were outlaws and anarchists of sorts.
Few stop and think about it that way but all of the original settlers of this country had the same thought process.
Those that migrated west in the late 19th century had the same thought process.
Even those hippies that went to San Fran in the 60s had the same thought process to some degree ... escaping something, looking for freedoms.
My Dad had a saying he preached as long as I can remember as a kid, "In a Nation where anything goes, everything eventually will."
We're there now but people don't realize it. As I am sitting here watching the hearing putting this corrupt bastard Merrick Garland through the ringer I realize we're about to lose a lot ... we've already lost a lot these past few years.
Difference is ... there's no where left to run-to on this planet. We were the last bastion of hope and freedom.
That's why the most daring have always migrated ... migrated east to west, south to north and even today north to south as those in blue states flee south to red states.
It's not so much about climate as it is freedom, a better life, etc.
The answer to the subject line question is South Carolina and Georgia, but SC in particular, was built upon a different geopolitical philosophy than any other state in the Union. We've held onto that for a few centuries but times are a changing. Manners are slipping, the golden rule neighborly Christian values are disappearing (because of the northern and halfback invasion) whereas some areas west of here never really truly had them embedded in their cultural psyche in the first place.
Edited: 15th to 17th ... old brain slippage while multitasking. I blame it on the heart surgery.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:07 pm to justaniceguy
South Carolina has the most mobile homes per capita of any state in the country.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:09 pm to scrooster
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You're on to something there although I admit to being mostly Scots-Irish. My family came in through Charleston in the late 15th century.
Assuming you mean 17th century here.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 2:09 pm
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