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re: High school student suspended for wearing Confederate flag attire

Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:28 pm to
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If I wore it, I'd expect black people to be pissed and want to fight me. They take it as a sign of aggression. So why would you try to incite people like this? 

So if we want a symbol or image banned, we should react violently to anyone wearing it and then say we were incited to violence, using our own violence as the justification for said censorship. Doesn't that kind of incentivize violence against speech with which you disagree?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:29 pm to
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Who decides? The most offended? That's how you choose to run society?



No, but by all means, continue putting words in my mouth.

I don't think there should be an across the board blanket law. Each school should be able to enforce their own rules based on how they view decorum.

It's better than as you said "ban it all or allow it all"
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:30 pm to
Would they kick out a kid for wearing a Che Guevara shirt?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:30 pm to
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If I wore it, I'd expect black people to be pissed and want to fight me. They take it as a sign of aggression.


You have a very low opinion of black people.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:30 pm to
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we should react violently to anyone wearing it and then say we were incited to violence, using our own violence as the justification for said censorship. Doesn't that kind of incentivize violence against speech with which you disagree?


You're expecting a lot of maturity out of kids that can't even legally drink yet.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:32 pm to
Or maybe he’s extrapolating the issue to society at large and you’re too dense to see the great point he just made
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:34 pm to
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You're expecting a lot of maturity out of kids that can't even legally drink yet.


You're not helping maturity by protecting them from being easily offended
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:35 pm to
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Or maybe he’s extrapolating the issue to society at large and you’re too dense to see the great point he just made



No I get it, and it's a problem in this world.

In a perfect world, it'd be different. We don't live in a perfect world.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:35 pm to
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You're not helping maturity by protecting them from being easily offended



So can a kid say "frick" in class without ramifications?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:36 pm to
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So can a kid say "frick" in class without ramifications?


Happens on a daily basis in every public school in this country
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:37 pm to
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Happens on a daily basis in every public school in this country



But is it ok?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:38 pm to
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But is it ok?


Evidently so
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42652 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:38 pm to
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No I get it, and it's a problem in this world. 

In a perfect world, it'd be different. We don't live in a perfect world.

If everyone in this world were as civil and reasonable in debating an issue as you have been, we wouldn't have a need for any of these policies.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:41 pm to
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If everyone in this world were as civil and reasonable in debating an issue as you have been, we wouldn't have a need for any of these policies.



Yeah, a utopia would be great.

But that will never exist, which is why there has to be some set of decorum rules implemented in certain institutions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:43 pm to
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But that will never exist, which is why there has to be some set of decorum rules implemented in certain institutions.


Id rather teach people that symbols are powerless than keep protecting the weak minded. If not, we will be burning books...

shite, we are already doing that
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Id rather teach people that symbols are powerless than keep protecting the weak minded. If not, we will be burning books...



But again, words are just as powerless, yet are you teaching your kids those words?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:48 pm to
It is a fricking shirt and a symbol. It ain't gonna hurt ya, honeypot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:49 pm to
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But again, words are just as powerless, yet are you teaching your kids those words?


Teaching my kids those Words? Not sure what you mean by that

My kids weren't offended by them. They knew better than to make a practice of using in casual conversation

But we aren't talking about my kds
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:50 pm to
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They knew better than to make a practice of using in casual conversation


But why did they know better? What's wrong with using those words?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83186 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:51 pm to
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It is a fricking shirt and a symbol. It ain't gonna hurt ya, honeypot.



Then don't complain when someone wears or does something that you don't agree with.
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