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re: High-Paying Trade Jobs Sit Empty, While High School Grads Line Up For University

Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30909 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:58 pm to
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You really don’t think a top notch trim carpenter running his own business and crew could make $180k


Sure they could, but for every carpenter there's 100 engineers making the same thing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282907 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:00 pm to
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Yeah, no shite, but they aren't. If it was easy then everybody would make 400k like these dumbasses claim they do.


This shite really eats you up
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37667 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:01 pm to
It actually is easy.

Three principles of my business.

1) communicate-good news and bad and bad news first
2) be where you say you’re going to be when you say you’re going to br there
3) do what you say you’re going to do when you say you’re going to do it

It really is easy to follow these simple rules. Sadly for them many don’t and that’s why we thrive.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2972 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:01 pm to
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Truth is you can be an engineer making 60k/year after taxes or a trim carpenter with a small crew making three times that after taxes. You can have a STEM Ph.D. and make 30K/year working slave hours or have an MBA and waiting tables. I know a guy with a 4-year degree in Accounting that decided to go to SF selection because he couldn't find a job here.


If someone with an accounting degree can’t find a job they must be the worst interview ever. Plenty of jobs for accounting grads out there.

And people with MBAs aren’t waiting tables either. That’s just stupid, unless they have an MBA from some BS online college.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282907 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:01 pm to
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You are literally arguing against facts.


You've never left the mid South.

Tradesmen in the northeast and west coast make good money
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1485 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:01 pm to
The "lender" is the federal government. But Trump is about to change all that (plus the government will already run out of money in 2021 according to the CBO.)

When social security, Medicare and interest on the debt comprise 100% of the federal budget, there is literally no money for student loans, or any other government services either.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17796 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:04 pm to
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Only way he's making that is if he's not paying any taxes and also is lying about his income.


No, you have any idea how much it costs to trim out a new construction house? Not the 1200 sqft 2BR/2BA you probably live in, but something from 3,500 to 8,000 sqft and more? Charging per sqft under-roof? Amazing the level of ignorance that these threads bring out...
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4859 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:05 pm to
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there are more mine workers, fishermen and construction workers making over 100k locally that young professionals.


Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30909 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:05 pm to
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You've never left the mid South.


I in fact have. I work for a major firm in a major market.

quote:

Tradesmen in the northeast and west coast make good money



Not according to the IRS and Department of Labor, but they obviously know less about it than some old frick that lives in Alaska.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37667 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:07 pm to
Why are you so bitter? You seem incapable of having a conversation on this forum without putting down the people who don’t share your viewpoint. It’s just conversation man. Open your mind. We’re always learning.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282907 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:07 pm to
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Not according to the IRS and Department of Labor, but they obviously know less about it than some old frick that lives in Alaska


I find it hard to believe any college gave you a degree
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30909 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Charging per sqft under-roof? Amazing the level of ignorance that these threads bring out


Agreed. You think the 1% represent the population.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20148 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:09 pm to
Young tradesmen can do well, but if they don’t work into a management position their body will start to fail them as they age and make work very hard or impossible

A bad back, bum knee, diabetes or arthritis are inconveniences to a 50 year old white collar worker, but many carpenters, plumbers, machinists, etc. with such problems end up applying for disability or are forced into lower paying unskilled jobs (Welcome to Moe’s!) that arent as physical.

Some folks don’t have a choice, but young folks who have an opportunity and ability to get a degree shouldn’t pass on it lightly.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:09 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282907 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:09 pm to
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but if they don’t work into a management position their body will start to fail them as they age and make work very hard or impossible


This isn't true anymore. technology kicks arse
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30909 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:11 pm to
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You seem incapable of having a conversation on this forum without putting down the people who don’t share your viewpoint


Arguing against official government statistics isn't a viewpoint, it's retardation.

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Open your mind.


To what claiming facts are false because of one anecdote?

I'll have a conversation with you, but Roger and this other clown are the most low IQ posters on this site.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30909 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:11 pm to
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I find it hard to believe any college gave you a degree


I've got 3 more than you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282907 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:12 pm to
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but Roger and this other clown are the most low IQ posters on this site.


I'm pretty sure you're 16 years old
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
14571 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:18 pm to
I make about 86,000 a year as an elevator technician. My specialty is that field is the PLC and electrical work. I was making 60,000 as an apprentice.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30909 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:20 pm to
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I make about 86,000 a year as an elevator technician. My specialty is that field is the PLC and electrical work. I was making 60,000 as an apprentice.



Do you have health insurance (provided through your employer) or any company sponsored retirement account? Serious question.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:21 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37667 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:26 pm to
We have both but you are correct that both are sorely lacking in many trades. We’re the exception in companies as small as ours.

The union shops definitely have benefits packages for their employees.
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