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re: Hiding your alcoholism from a GF
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:41 pm to boom roasted
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:41 pm to boom roasted
His number is for people trying for the first time. Pretty close to accurate but that’s for people not receiving any other kind of treatment prior to entering AA. Then the number goes up.
Silly to talk statistics at all. I believe success rate is extremely high when done honestly and properly, regardless of it being AA, SMART, whatever...
Silly to talk statistics at all. I believe success rate is extremely high when done honestly and properly, regardless of it being AA, SMART, whatever...
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:45 pm to Rouge
Again, you're talking out of your arse. AA a court ordered process?
bullshite. AA isn't the money maker. Almost EVERY court ordered process includes some BS lifestyle course that costs MONEY. Now, if someone barters in AA into their own family court deal, that's case by case. But judges don't throw AA around as a mandate.
Where do you get this info?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:45 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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You should say I beat it, I am cured and be proud of it. AA teaches failure and that is wrong imo
The AA I’ve been to doesn’t teach that
I beat it. What I’ve been around, working the 12 steps properly is being “cured” or “recovered” instead of “recovering”
Then you keep going to help others do the same and perform maintenance work.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:47 pm to Sao
I was court ordered to some bull shite out patient rehab that cost me money. Never had to get a slip signed for AA meetings.
These state run facilities are the travesty. Collecting government money and not helping people one bit.
These state run facilities are the travesty. Collecting government money and not helping people one bit.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:48 pm to Centinel
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AA sucks. SMART ftw.
You're just chock full of dumbassedness today, aren't you?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:50 pm to Rouge
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I really wouldn't have a problem with AA if it was not often a court-ordered decision, especially since it is well documented that AA has no better success rate than quitting cold turkey
You bring up a good conversation to have. Not enough money spent by the government to help treat people properly. Without going to seek REAL professional help, it’s tough to succeed in any program. Good professional help costs money that most addicts/alcoholics don’t have.
Never ending cycle
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:51 pm to Sao
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now what is worse than AA? Al Anon.
ETA: Adding to that, Family week at La Hacienda. Twice
My wife has done these things to support her brother, tells me about it and it sounds retarded, although I wasnt in their family situation growing up
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:51 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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You're just chock full of dumbassedness today, aren't you?
Don't you and Mr. Perfect have a circle jerk to complete? Adults are talking here.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:52 pm to redfieldk717
Exactly. Believe me, I've seen it.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:53 pm to Sao
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Where do you get this info?
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Court and Treatment Program Referrals
A.A. groups have welcomed many new members from court programs and treatment facilities. Some have come to A.A. on their own; others arrived under a degree of pressure. While the voluntary nature of meeting attendance is part of A.A.’s strength, many A.A.s first attended meetings because attendance was mandated either by someone else or by their own inner discomfort. How someone found us or who referred them isn’t important; their drinking problem is our sole concern. We cannot predict who will recover, nor can we specify how recovery is sought. We know only that frequent exposure to A.A. has helped many of us understand the true nature of alcoholism.
Proof of Attendance at Meetings
Some judges require written proof that offenders have attended a certain number of meetings. Often, when the court-ordered newcomer attends an A.A. meeting, the group secretary (or other group officer) is willing to sign their first name, or to initial a slip furnished by the court saying so-and-so was at the meeting on a particular date. Hopefully, all involved recognize that neither the group nor its members are “bound” in any way by the signature, nor does this courtesy signify affiliation of the A.A. group with any other program or guarantee that the attendee was present for the entire meeting; it simply illustrates cooperation. Court professionals should understand too, that attendance at A.A. meetings doesn’t guarantee sobriety.
LINK
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:53 pm to Centinel
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Adults are talking here.
You should listen. You might learn something for once.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:54 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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You should listen. You might learn something for once.
Speaking of learning something, have you learned how to answer a simple yes or no question?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:58 pm to EarlyCuyler3
In reference to my post about my cousin. Don’t matter who you are, being a doper and/or a drunk until you are ready to admit it you never will get straight. If you don’t die you’ll just fricking go crazy. Just try it you’ll see
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:58 pm to Rouge
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many people see alcoholics anonymous as simply substituting one co-dependence for another
Many people apparently think the earth is flat. Doesnt mean they're right.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:58 pm to Theboot32
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quote: now what is worse than AA? Al Anon. ETA: Adding to that, Family week at La Hacienda. Twice My wife has done these things to support her brother, tells me about it and it sounds retarded, although I wasnt in their family situation growing up
I can't say it was retarded. What I can say it is an incredible roller coaster. Very delicate balance between doing good and reversing some sense of getting better for the patient when they feel overwhelmed. But what La Hacienda did do, without question, was dissect the science. And it's a complete eye opener and actually kind of scary and unreal what true addiction is.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:00 pm to Rouge
Dude. You googling shite doesn't mean a damn thing in the practical sense. None.
Bow out.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:02 pm to Sao
quote:linking the official AA site where they note court-ordered attendance of their meetings does not make practical sense?
You googling shite doesn't mean a damn thing in the practical sense. None.
Bow out.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:04 pm to Sao
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Mr. Thirstanality.
Howell III

Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:06 pm to Mr Personality
Yeah, you need help. If she’s actually your girlfriend and not a fling you see two days a week, she knows already.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:06 pm to Rouge
It's a tough balance. A lot of the time that's the only way you'll get someone in there. What's the alternative? Paying for then to sit in a jail cell which has been shown to accomplish practically nothing?
Professional help, as in therapists, rarely ever reach an alcoholic initially. That comes down the road if needed.
Professional help, as in therapists, rarely ever reach an alcoholic initially. That comes down the road if needed.
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