re: Here is the Definitive video of the Drumming Indian approaching the random MAGA hat kid

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What is and isn’t offensive is up to the offended.

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It's definitely not up to the offender.

But come on. It's one thing to chop and chant at a sporting event as if you are identifying with and proud to be associated with someone. But it is clear and obvious to anyone that directing the chops and chants AT a native american is absolutely offensive. Any knucklehead can see that.

It may very well be the case that these kids were minding their own business and the Phillips guy came over out of his way to start some shite. I'm just saying OP's video is not even remotely definitive proof of that.

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But come on. It's one thing to chop and chant at a sporting event as if you are identifying with and proud to be associated with someone. But it is clear and obvious to anyone that directing the chops and chants AT a native american is absolutely offensive. Any knucklehead can see that.

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If an Indian is beating a drum in your face, are you going to back down? Especially if he walks up to you and does it? With the way the media is now, I am glad I grew up when I did. There are too many double standards these days. Liberals can trash Trump, or the police, but if you walk out in public with a MAGA hat, or a badge on, you are automatically a racist. This kid was approached by a GROWN arse indian man, banging on a drum in his face, and now he is labeled as a "racist" because he stands there smiling with a MAGA hat on.

Fair enough. But the tomahawk chop only lasted a couple of seconds anyways and really shouldn't even be a concern with regards to this "story".

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One thing OP's video is definitive proof of is that those kids were chopping and chanting mockingly before he approached the one kid.

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So, it's still ok for the grown man to approach this kid beating a drum in his face because of some arm motions? kid could've said he feared the Indian was going to hit him with his drum stick, and then beat his old arse. Just saying. thing could have played out a whole lot worse, but if the other comment about the Indian yelling go back to Europe is true, then that's a whole new can of worms opened, and the chopping is justifiable. I feel as if the indian tried to intimidate the kids.

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if the other comment about the Indian yelling go back to Europe is true, then that's a whole new can of worms opened, and the chopping is justifiable

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I see.


So, if some people, maybe Mexicans, came here in a sort of "invasion" and took your family's land, and then years later mocked you and your traditions, and YOU told HIM to go back to Mexico, then YOU would be in the wrong?

I don’t think the kid is racist. That word is slung around too much. He is an absolute smirking, smart arse kid. I am 61 years old and I have seen generations of immature smart arse kids. That bunch fits the bill. I did a lot of “ young “ stuff. A lot. None of it silly like those punks.

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So, if some people, maybe Mexicans, came here in a sort of "invasion" and took your family's land,

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Would never happen. Mexicans don't frick with nobody's land.

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then years later mocked you and your traditions, and YOU told HIM to go back to Mexico, then YOU would be in the wrong?

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I meant to add in first. If the Indian yelled go back to Europe FIRST However, The point I am making, that you haven't refuted yet, is he is an old, grown, white haired man. They are kids. I did shite that was worse than this.


Let's be clear, If you are say 45 and white (IDK what you are, I am 25 and white BTW/ classified as a millennial and I hate it because these frickers are too soft these days) and my 14 year old says something slick to you, I will chew his arse, but if you step to him in an aggressive manner, or threatening manner ( ex. with a stick swinging by his face) You in my book will be in the wrong, because you just stepped to a minor/kid in a threatening way.

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then years later mocked you and your traditions,

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This kid didn't take anybody's land, let's not act like this was yesterday that they were invaded. This dude never walked "the trail of tears." That's like accusing white people of being racist because of slavery. I never owned anybody, My dad didn't, my Grandparents didn't, Great grandparents didn't, hell who knows how far back I would have to go to figure out who (if anyone) in my family owned a slave.

The thing that bothers me is these dumb asses or trolls that think the boy should just move. If rolls reversed, should the man just move out the way? Oh wait, he could have just walked around him to begin with.

Um, are you siding with the possible (probable) racist, smug-arse kid who has likely gotten everything he has ever wanted out of life handed to him on a platter? Are you saying it was okay for him to get in a Native American man's face and attempt to intimidate him? Is this the hill you're willing to die on?

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All of those immature kids are mocking the Indians. Looks like some rich frat kids. The greatest thing any of them could do is make French fries.

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This times a million plus infinity plus one