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re: Herd Turns on Hunters After They Gun Down Bull Elephant
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:51 am to LoneStarTiger
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:51 am to LoneStarTiger
Have you actually ever read that act? The money comes from the sales of guns and ammo. Do you really think Hunters and Fishermen make up even half of those purchases? No, they don't..
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:59 am to Phil A Sheo
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What kind of vagina hunts an elephant.. Grow a sack and hunt something that can hunt you back..
Judging from this video that's exactly what happened.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:03 am to Darth_Vader
You are a dumb arse, first of all the animal is used for feeding the hungry mouths in the nearest village.
One of my closest friends is from Kenya and has land there that he farms so he is always going back and forth back home. Crops are damaged due to elephants and hippos. Hunters are then brought in to hunt the animals then when they are taken they pass the meat out as it is processed to the local villagers. Which in turn feed their families. It’s also a plus for the hunters that go there because it’s extra revenue. So you might want to think again before you speak about something that you don’t even know about.
One of my closest friends is from Kenya and has land there that he farms so he is always going back and forth back home. Crops are damaged due to elephants and hippos. Hunters are then brought in to hunt the animals then when they are taken they pass the meat out as it is processed to the local villagers. Which in turn feed their families. It’s also a plus for the hunters that go there because it’s extra revenue. So you might want to think again before you speak about something that you don’t even know about.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:13 am to brmark70816
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The money comes from the sales of guns and ammo. Do you really think Hunters and Fishermen make up even half of those purchases? No, they don't..
I don't really know that percentage, honestly, and don't care. What I do care about is the results, the money going towards wildlife and habitat.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:32 am to LoneStarTiger
You don't care, but you claim credit. I'm happy for the money to go to wildlife habitats. But to say that Hunters and Fishermen are towing the line or making it possible is ignoring the facts. Lets pass the credit around..
Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:40 am to Darth_Vader
"hunters"
yeah roll up on a bunch of giant grazing animals in a jeep and blast it.
yeah roll up on a bunch of giant grazing animals in a jeep and blast it.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:51 am to brmark70816
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As far as Elephants. Its hard to watch. I get putting them down, but its not hunting. Its no different than going to the farm and shooting a cow.
Lol. This is great. Where did this assumption come from? Honestly. This sums up your entire idiocy on this subject.
First off, again, explain if it’s so easy why these guys almost died?
2nd, again they aren’t hunting any elephant. They go after very specific old bulls. Elephants can move 30+ Miles a day. Finding 3-4 specific animals over a 50 mile range area is not easy.
Then getting within 100 yards of an animal that size is not easy nor safe. It’s not my thing, but the idea that it isn’t sporting is about as far from the truth as it gets.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:58 am to brmark70816
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Do you really think Hunters and Fishermen make up even half of those purchases? No, they don't..
Got some proof on that claim?
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:06 am to Darth_Vader
What makes sustainably hunting elephants any different from deer or elk? The meat gets eaten. Yall are just being emotional females because elephants are charismatic, anthropomorphized in movies, and they look great on calendars. The meat all gets eaten. Legal hunting isnt a problem. Poaching is. Money from legal hunts goes towards funding anti poaching efforts.
I dont see the appeal in elephant hunting and would rather watch them. It is easy to condemn Africa allowing elephant hunts while I'm sitting here in air conditioning with enough to eat and not worrying about my crops getting trampled. Placing monetary value on the herd through game fees has given a lot of the locals a reason to tolerate them.
I dont see the appeal in elephant hunting and would rather watch them. It is easy to condemn Africa allowing elephant hunts while I'm sitting here in air conditioning with enough to eat and not worrying about my crops getting trampled. Placing monetary value on the herd through game fees has given a lot of the locals a reason to tolerate them.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:08 am to GetCocky11
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I get that, but what skill is involved? You drive around, find a pack of elephants, get out and shoot it. They're so big you really can't miss it when you shoot.
I just don't understand what the thrill is.
As much as I agree, if people were for animal conservation they would be glad hunters are paying to go over there and hunt. This is the only money that directly goes to conservation and stopping poaching.
Poachers in Africa kill more animals now than ever, and it's because SJWs have started saying hunters of these animals are bad people. Well now there are more of their beloved animals being slaughtered instead of managed because of the lack of paid hunts now.
So yea, tons of ignorance on this topic over here.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:09 am to brmark70816
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hunters saving all the wildlife or without them we would be overrun
A lot of the guys who use population management and an excuse to hunt go and kill predators because they might hurt the population. I hunt because of the food and I'm participating in a predator/prey relationship that is hundreds of thousands of years old.
I think hunters need to do a better job of presenting themselves to the general public. We are less than 10% of the general population in the us.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:17 am to eScott
Who cares if it’s legal. It’s pointless. It just says look at me I have money and can kill an elephant.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:22 am to texag7
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I could never hunt an elephant, lion, etc but at this point hunting is currently the best option to protect them.
The money provides protection (man power) for large game reserves.
If these people actually cared about protecting the elephants, they'd pay money without killing one.
Elephants are fricking incredible. They have family units and memories. They mourn the loss of loved ones like humans and do so annually at their grave sites.
Its incredibly fricked up that people get their rocks off by running up to a slow animal the size of a house and killing it. There is no sport in that.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:25 am to GetCocky11
Same with any other hunting here in the South. Go hang out with your bros and drink beer while you plant food that doesn't naturally grow in the area 2 months before the season opens. Watch all the deer from your remote camera at your house and get all pumped up. Then when the season opens you show up with a gun and pick the one you want. No hunting involved, just harvesting.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:33 am to celltech1981
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Legal hunting isnt a problem. Poaching is. Money from legal hunts goes towards funding anti poaching efforts.
This is a point that 99.999% of those crying foul miss.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:41 am to TheCaterpillar
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If these people actually cared about protecting the elephants, they'd pay money without killing one.
Again, its about herd management and these Elephants that are shot would be killed by a game manager.
Basically 0% of these elephants that are hunted would be alive today if they weren't hunted.
Most of them are on private land that only want a certain amount of elephants a year.
Just because the amount of Elephants in Africa as a whole is lower today, doesn't mean the amount of Elephants EVERYWHERE in Africa is lower today. The biggest issue on Elephants is loss of habitat and poaching. None of which is caused by hunting.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:45 am to Darth_Vader
Lol
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:12 pm to Darth_Vader
Herds have to be managed. Currently this is the best way. As gruesome as it is it pays the Bill's.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:22 pm to oleheat
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Legal hunting isnt a problem. Poaching is. Money from legal hunts goes towards funding anti poaching efforts.
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This is a point that 99.999% of those crying foul miss.
The corruption in these countries is so bad that probably 99.999% of the money intended for poaching never goes to the intended purpose. As I posted before, in Kenya and other countries wildlife management officials are part of the poaching problem.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:41 pm to oleheat
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Legal hunting isnt a problem. Poaching is. Money from legal hunts goes towards funding anti poaching efforts.
This is a point that 99.999% of those crying foul miss
This. There is a lot of people in this thread using emotions over facts.
I personally don't want to kill a lion or elephant, but the greater good is undeniable.
And people need to listen to Ted Nugent on Rogan. Ted is kinda nuts, but crazy knowledgeable on the topic of conservation.
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