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re: Helmet Cam Catches Moment Car Turns In Front of Motorcycle Doing 97 MPH
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:12 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:12 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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You're not supposed to be looking in the direction in which your vehicle is traveling? That's news to me
You have to do more than that when you're crossing traffic coming from the opposing direction. That can't be news to you.
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:28 am to LNCHBOX
Right, you have to judge traffic, then pay attention to where you're going. Kind of skews it when someone is over a 10th of a mile away and closes that distance in 4 seconds
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:29 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Without reading all of the posts, a left turn (in this uk case right) will ALWAYS be the inherently dangerous, legally, maneuver. Speed was a contributing factor, but failure to yield was the predominant cause. Saying "I didn't see him" or "he was going too fast" does not relieve a driver of the obligation to yield.
That's all well and good I guess. But if the guy was driving like a normal, safe, reasonable driver rather than living out his Excitebike fantasies, what would've happened then? Who in the video was acting or driving in an unreasonable manner? Reasonableness of behavior matters IMO.
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 7:41 am
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:35 am to Huey Lewis
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But if the guy was driving like a normal, safe, reasonable driver rather than living out his Excitebike fantasies, what would've happened then?
Plenty of bikers have been killed in that exact fashion. What if the driver of the car had been paying sufficient attention and didn't pull out? It goes both ways.
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Who in the video was acting or driving in an unreasonable manner?
Both IMO. You are not absolved of your responsibility to yield just because someone is driving erratically.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:36 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Right, you have to judge traffic, then pay attention to where you're going.
This person admitted to not even seeing the bike. That is a clear failure to judge traffic.
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Kind of skews it when someone is over a 10th of a mile away and closes that distance in 4 seconds
It skews it sure, but it doesn't completely take away responsibility.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:43 am to LNCHBOX
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This person admitted to not even seeing the bike. That is a clear failure to judge traffic.
For comparison, let's say we have some soccer mom on a residential street with a 25 mph speed limit trying to back out of a driveway on the way to a kid's birthday party or whatever the hell. Look one way and it's clear, look the other way and it's clear too. While looking in that second direction, over the course of 1-2 seconds, Jean Girard comes down in his Formula One car zoom zooming at 200mph and t-bones the soccer mom's van into a magnificent fiery cloud of car sprinkles.
Would you blame the soccer mom for not seeing it coming? If not, then at what point do you think an average driver is being expected to have superhuman observation and decision making quickness in order to react correctly to conditions created by a reckless driver?
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 7:45 am
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:45 am to Huey Lewis
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For comparison, let's say we have some soccer mom on a residential street with a 25 mph speed limit trying to back out of a driveway on the way to a kid's birthday party or whatever the hell. Look one way and it's clear, look the other way and it's clear too. While looking in that second direction, over the course of 1-2 seconds, Jean Girard comes down in his Formula One car zoom zooming at 200mph and t-bones the soccer mom's van into a magnificent fiery cloud of car sprinkles.
This situation is almost nothing like what happened here, so there's really no point in discussing it.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:47 am to LNCHBOX
That driver got screwed. Can't anticipate while you are driving 35 mph going home that a formula one race broke out on your street.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:05 pm to LSU alum wannabe
not to rehash this thread, but drove it today and it took me 7-8 seconds driving at 50mph, from the bottom of the hill to get to the top where you lose site over it.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:48 pm to StormTiger
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not to rehash this thread, but drove it today and it took me 7-8 seconds driving at 50mph, from the bottom of the hill to get to the top where you lose site over it.
So, 1/10th of a mile. That's 3.7 seconds at 97mph.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 1:55 pm to Darth_Vader
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Guys on bikes, slow down. Guys in cars, pay closer attention.
Guys/Girls on bikes, You are riding a death machine. Stop lane splitting, stop thinking you are invincible, stop thinking that the road belongs to you. Realize that the reason we don't see you as car drivers is because you lane split, you drive in excess of 100 mph on a regular basis.
Guys/Girls in cars, put your cell phones down and pay attention. Use your damn turn signals. They are put in the car for a reason. Make sure you give adequate space for bikers both on pedal bikes and motor bikes. Stupidity kills, and both parties are at fault in this video.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:01 pm to USAF Hart
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Guys/Girls on bikes, You are riding a death machine. Stop lane splitting, stop thinking you are invincible, stop thinking that the road belongs to you. Realize that the reason we don't see you as car drivers is because you lane split, you drive in excess of 100 mph on a regular basis.
Lane splitting is perfectly fine, this bullshite it is wrong is because of our uneducated driver base in this country. It is more than acceptable if done at proper speeds with an informed motorcycle/car community. Works great in places where it is legal and the driver education is up to par. It really needs to be expanded and legalized around the country and our driver base educated. It helps with traffic and is an encouragement to get more people using motorcycles, which in turn helps congestion and gas prices.
I did it all the time in Cali, California drivers would give extra room when they saw me coming. I had to watch out for out of state plates that would try to cut me off because they didn't understand it was legal there, but I knew what to expect with them and I maintained a safe legal speed when doing it.
This post was edited on 9/9/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:02 pm to USAF Hart
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Realize that the reason we don't see you as car drivers is because you lane split, you drive in excess of 100 mph on a regular basis.
Nothing like more hyperbole.
I agree with the gist of your post though.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:07 pm to LNCHBOX
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Nothing like more hyperbole
I should have made the excess of 100 mph comment as it pertains to the highway. I can't count the number of crotch rockets I see just zooming in and out of everyone in traffic. It's ridiculous.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:19 pm to LNCHBOX
If a drunk driver hit you and he was doing nothing wrong except that and you pulled out in front of them by accident and it was your fault. You were injured badly. Would you sue the drunk driver? Would it be their fault in your opinion?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:22 pm to lsu13lsu
Let's go backwards to find the answers.
No I would not sue for something that was completely my fault.
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Would it be their fault in your opinion?
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you pulled out in front of them by accident and it was your fault. You were injured badly.
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If a drunk driver hit you and he was doing nothing wrong except that
No I would not sue for something that was completely my fault.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:27 pm to LNCHBOX
Ok, just trying to get a feeling for a different scenario. Similar that happens often.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 2:59 pm to Darth_Vader
I'm sure its been stated multiple times, but if you are going 90 mph on a crotch rocket on a busy road and you get killed, that is the epitome of Darwinism.
Nothing more enraging than a douchebag weaving in and out of traffic with his crotch rocket going 30 mph faster than the rest of the flow of traffic.
Nothing more enraging than a douchebag weaving in and out of traffic with his crotch rocket going 30 mph faster than the rest of the flow of traffic.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 3:34 pm to Funky Tide 8
quote:no getting around this
if you are going 90 mph on a crotch rocket on a busy road and you get killed, that is the epitome of Darwinism.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 3:37 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Nothing more enraging than a douchebag weaving in and out of traffic with his crotch rocket going 30 mph faster than the rest of the flow of traffic.
This is a very common reason for bike accidents IMO. The safe bet when on a bike is to be patient and go with the flow of traffic and not fight it.
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