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re: Have We Reached Peak Electric Vehicle Stupidity?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:56 pm to texag7
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:56 pm to texag7
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The mining and refining of ore to produce one Tesla battery produces more emissions than a Honda Accord will emit over 100,000 miles.
Not to mention the expensive and rare metals to make those batteries. If everyone bought EVs, we would run out of those metals wayyyy before we would ever run out of oil to produce gasoline
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:01 pm to CatfishJohn
Interior looks like a Chris Craft boat.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:16 pm to CatfishJohn
40 years from now, on Bring a Trailer, it'll sell for $880,000 to some collector.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:23 pm to Corinthians420
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can't wait to see this diagram
This group crunched the numbers and it cost about $17 per gallon for one of those POS.
$17 a gallon
Oh yeah, ever seen a lithium mining operation?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:26 pm to WB Davis
That’s fricking awesome. But I’m a car enthusiast who misses good looking cars
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:29 pm to Reubaltaich
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This group crunched the numbers and it cost about $17 per gallon for one of those POS.
You should read the source material for that article. If you did, you’d be embarrassed that you posted that.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:34 pm to WB Davis
Looks like it was designed by a Minecraft Autist.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:39 pm to WB Davis
This one is electric and also only about $350.00.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:42 pm to WB Davis
For $100k no way. But let’s be honest there’s plenty of overpriced and/or stupid looking internal combustion engine vehicles out there as well
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:47 pm to CatfishJohn
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. There is a reason that these abominations are offered in only 2 states. I suspect that it is because both are overwhelmingly populated by the Dim robots who buy into this insanity because they "feel" like they are helping to save the planet. So I hope that your hurt feelings don't linger too long and you can resume counting the dwindling number of Rs in that toxic state.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:48 pm to DavidTheGnome
Precisely. The great thing about our market is the market can decide jf it should be here or not
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:48 pm to WB Davis
If a commercial airs in Baton Rouge featuring a mixed race transgender driving an EV, with a drag queen drinking a Bud Light in the passenger seat, sporting bumper stickers for BLM and climate change, the OT servers will literally melt down.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:50 pm to jmarto1
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The great thing about our market is the market can decide jf it should be here or not
Not when the levers of government are thrown in favor of one and mandates start.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:58 pm to Corinthians420
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Surely you realize generating electicity at a power plant is more efficient than burning fuel in an ICE vehicle?
You have something to back that up with?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:59 pm to billjamin
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Got anything to back that up?
Got anything to refute it?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:08 pm to Martini
LINK
The 25% depends on where you get the information. Ev friendly sites are going to quote 25%. ICE friendly sites will quote up to 50% efficiency.
Truth usually lies somewhere in between.
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energy produced in a power plant is much more efficient than in the small engine of a vehicle, no matter how much technology has improved the efficiency of these vehicles. The average coal plant about 35% efficient, with the very best ultra super critical coal plants at about 42% efficient. Even the best combined cycle natural gas plants are about 60%, which still implies that 40% of the energy obtained from the fuel used is lost in the process of producing electricity. An internal combustion engine in a car is at best 25%, efficient, with most energy simply lost as heat. In a large power plant, the possibilities of reusing that heat are obviously much greater than in the small engine of a vehicle.
The 25% depends on where you get the information. Ev friendly sites are going to quote 25%. ICE friendly sites will quote up to 50% efficiency.
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Modern gasoline engines have a maximum thermal efficiency of more than 50%,[1] but most road legal cars are only about 20% to 40% when used to power a car.[2][3][4][5] Many engines would be capable of running at higher thermal efficiency but at the cost of higher wear and emissions
Truth usually lies somewhere in between.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:08 pm to Martini
Double post
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:11 pm to Martini
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Got anything to refute it?
Common sense
A dozen or so IE reports
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:15 pm to IAmNERD
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Not when the levers of government are thrown in favor of one and mandates start.
Federally you're talking a tax incentive. You have control over what your state does and we are not California
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You have something to back that up with?
A high school physics course can tell you that stop and go in an ICE is pretty damn inefficient. Unless you were for the whole car shutting of at the stop light
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:23 pm to WB Davis
Would make a lot more sense if they just put in a Cummins 4cyl though.
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