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re: Have any of you had experience with both Methadone and Suboxone?

Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Ron Popeil
Mississippi coast or Fairgrounds
Member since Nov 2018
890 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:39 pm to
I’ve had employees on both. The one on methadone wound up going back to heroin and overdosed. The one on suboxone fell asleep while driving a company truck and rear ended a stopped vehicle totaling the truck, the car he hit, and injuring 4 people. I did not know he was taking subozone. Don’t know how that helps you but I honestly wish you all the best in recovery.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8109 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:43 pm to
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methadone but he’s writing it for pain management


The whole point of methadone originally was that it was a strong pain reliever that doesn’t give you a buzz (which is why they use it to get people off drugs). Geez...how much methadone are people taking that they get a buzz from it?
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18110 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:54 pm to
Probation and Parole Officer who happens to be a drug treatment specialist.

Suboxone seems to be having better results from what I’ve seen. I’ve had quite a few hard-core addicts go on it and stay off the opioids. That being said, I’ve also had a few die this year who were supposedly doing well.

My honest opinion is that you need to go to a detox facility and sweat it out. One way or another you are going to go through withdraws and you will wish you were dead.

Best of luck to you. I hope you clean up,before you die.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28108 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:58 pm to
You're probation officer recommended Suboxone?
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:50 pm to
Man like others have said. I’ve changed my stance on MAT a lot. I used to be against it heavily. But lost so many people I knew to overdoses my opinion changed a bit. I think vivatrol and sublicade can’t really be abused. I’ve seen people detox off methadone for a month and that shite gets into your bones. It’s no joke. AA worked for me. Took me a while to get willing and take suggestions. If you need any help/suggestions just let me know
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:15 am to
Suboxone has a longer half life but methadone makes you feel better. Both are hard to get off of.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36750 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:55 am to
You know the drill.....

Opiates > Suboxone > kratom

....from what I understand.

This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 3:56 am
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:30 am to
Kratom, if used properly, is a much better and more manageable way than the other 2. Methadone will just reform the junkie into a new junkie. Suboxone...I do not know much, but I do know that people will take it recreationally (who are not on it as a routine).
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 4:31 am
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:51 am to
Nah that’s a no for me.. sorry
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
16653 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:52 am to
No. I handle my problems without pills.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:01 am to
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Opiates > Suboxone > kratom


Except suboxone is an opioid as well. It isn't a full opiate antagonist like methadone or heroin for example but it is a partial antagonist. There is euphoria involved with suboxone but not of the same magnitude as other full antagonists. Suboxone is stronger than morphine and street grade heroin as well.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150327 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:07 am to
quote:

Have any of you had experience with both
yes

quote:

If so which helped you the most?

helped me do what? Get clean or get high?
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3548 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:10 am to
Sub WD was awful. That’s all I can say to help you out, other than this: The bill always come due. The more of whatever you do and the longer you do it, the worse the tab will be. Fact.
Posted by Got Heeem
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
3631 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:47 am to
Using drugs to get off drugs is a pitiful way to beat addiction.

Find a way to quit without getting on something else. It's not a winning solution.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53514 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:26 am to
You’re not in recovery or on the road to recovery with either.
Posted by BigWillieStyle
Member since Dec 2019
1703 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:50 am to
Methadone is terrible. That stuff soaks in your bones and will rot your teeth after a while. The withdrawal from that makes dope look like child’s play.

Suboxone is just as bad if taken for an extended period of time. The best thing to do is just take enough to get through withdrawals. Take it for 5 days then start to taper off. I wouldn’t take it longer than 10/14 days. If you’re still having symptoms after that just man up and push through. It’s not gonna kill you.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:30 am to
Never had any experience with methadone but I do know people that would get really high in it. So it seems like that would kinda keep you chasing that feeling.

With subs I never felt anything after the 2nd time. They are both very long-acting and stay in your system for a long time. The trick is to taper down to a miniscule dose before stopping to mitigate the withdrawals. My withdrawals from sub wasn't as intense as the oxycodone but damn if it didn't drag on forever. I was still in the worst part after 7 days. But like I said, it was nowhere near as intense as other withdrawals. It still sucked though.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:30 am to
If you want to keep getting high then go to the methadone clinic. Methadone is some good dope plain and simple. Suboxone will help you much more than methadone.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11833 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:46 am to
I took suboxone once in college. Made my stomach cramp/hurt and throw up my intestines. It didn't not get me high.

Hope this helps
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 9:48 am
Posted by NastyTiger
Hammond/Baton Rouge/Lafayette
Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:28 am to
Jesus, I wish the people who fight these demons the best. Stop this, for yourselves and for your families.
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