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re: Has there ever been a communist leader who wasn't a terrible tyrant?

Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:56 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:56 am to
No, because communism has never been tried according to every Western communist.
Posted by Palomitz
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:00 am to
Probably Boris Yeltsin, served a limited term throughout the 1990's.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:01 am to
No, and they're almost all fat pieces of shite too. I think Lenin is the lone exception.

Communism is a lie told to the working class to dupe them into being foot soldiers for aspiring authoritarian shitbags.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:02 am to
And I’d say the actual most competent communist leader was Deng Xiaoping, because he saw communism for the disaster that it was and course corrected:

Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:04 am to
Damn that’s a good quote.

A way more poetic way of saying what I was gonna say. Most leaders have been assholes but the ones who are capitalists at least aren’t outright lying to you about their motives. You know they want to make money.

Idk what the hell communists want other than a self aggrandizing sense of power
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 9:07 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:06 am to
Communism on a large scale cannot ever work.

Communism in a village or small group of people (less than 100) will work for a few weeks/months bu thuman nature dictates that someone would grasp power and it would soon have a power structure which they pretend to abhor.

Communism isnt compatible with human nature, period.

I always tell these clowns to find like minded people and from a commune. But they dont want that. They want to take what you have already built.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:08 am to
I believe that Stalin was not considered to be a terrible tyrant. In fact, he was a highly successful tyrant. Off the charts great at his job.

Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:08 am to
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No, but that doesn’t stop the purple haired weirdos and soy boys from wanting communism in America


If the middle class keeps getting squeezed, it will look more appealing to those who have given up and have nothing. Their votes count as much as yours does. If the majority is poor with no hope, that’s what we will het.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:10 am to
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Communism in a village or small group of people (less than 100) will work for a few weeks/months bu thuman nature dictates that someone would grasp power and it would soon have a power structure which they pretend to abhor.


Communism requires literally everyone to be on the same page and with a willful understanding that some people will be working harder than others to live under the same conditions. We don’t operate that way as a species. You’re not going to sacrifice everything for a sack of shite you don’t know and doesn’t pull his own weight.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:10 am to
The only semi normal communist regime is Vietnam. We never should have fought their independence. And we propped up the south who weren't the best people either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:12 am to
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Communism requires literally everyone to be on the same page and with a willful understanding that some people will be working harder than others to live under the same conditions. We don’t operate that way as a species.


You are spot on.

Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:18 am to
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Plenty of people praised Fidel Castro
I knew a lot of Cuban refugees in New Orleans and heard enough to think that people may have nodded enthusiastically - right after Che shot those who did not nod enthusiastically enough...
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:18 am to
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Idk what the hell communists want other than a self aggrandizing sense of power


They want utopia and the ideologues truly believe they are on the path to utopia as long as everyone is on the same page. Now, those that aren’t ideologues want power, and power alone.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:19 am to
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They want utopia and the ideologues truly believe they are on the path to utopia as long as everyone is on the same page.


Indeed. Communists are utopians, and utopians are responsible for most of the collective damage done in this world.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:20 am to
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quote:Is Putin terrible? He’s not a communist.


The answer to the original question is yes, he is terrible.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:27 am to
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Has there ever been a communist leader who wasn't a terrible tyrant?


The nature of communism and socialism requires violence for control. It is simply a fact.

If the individual has no direct responsibility for himself, he will ultimately cease working. If the state provides all necessities for living, and working harder/smarter/longer will not allow one to improve one's standard of living, why would he work?

Therefore, force/violence must be the only option to force production. Imprisonment for failure to produce is costly and does not cause production.

Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:27 am to
tito
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:28 am to
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The nature of communism and socialism requires violence for control. It is simply a fact.


Its an adversarial philosophy in which everyone is either a victim or abuser.

Its fricking retarded.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:31 am to
I don’t know world politics well enough to answer your question specifically, but communism it an economic system as opposed to a political system.

So, in theory, if elections were fair there could potentially be “nice” democratically elected leader over a society with a communistic economic system.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:39 am to
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Its an adversarial philosophy in which everyone is either a victim or abuser.


That’s why communists label anyone who isn’t a communist as “fascist.”
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