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re: Has anyone in here successfully weened off benzodiazepines?

Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:11 pm to
It’s a much more older school practice
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:12 pm to
I had a xanax habit a couple years ago. I was taking 6 mg per day. I quit cold Turkey and relapsed after 2 days of hell. I bought 30 valium 10 mg and weened myself off with them. Klonopin has a half life over 30 hrs so you can easily ween yourself off without getting sick. It is a mental hurdle though and can be difficult. You can do it brother.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:15 pm to
That’s a major misconception. Klonopin in terms of withdrawal protracted danger is maybe only topped by Halcion.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:19 pm to
What’s your view on the emergence of pharmaceutical grade Ketamine being used for depression/anxiety? I’ve read that it’s marketed as a nasal spray that you can only take while at a specialty clinic.

I think it’s currently used as a last resort for people who’ve gone through multiple SSRIs without any results.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:26 pm to
I didn’t get much experience in this particular experimental treatment. I know a good bit about Ketaphine and how it works in the body in terms of how it gets to what it wants to do.

I have been pretty not shy about not being too pleased with what is the current standard 1sr line option as we are taught and by the DSM. Just like anxiety depression is another of the major issues and diagnosis my practice d specifically sees the most of (most are always comorbid with anxiety at the very least and usually much more). I already routinely use stimulants for depressions but studies showing its widespread worth have been around a long time. Ketamine is cutting edge. We are also testing addiction with adderall much how we do with methadone and subutex.

To not ramble too much, I have treatments I prefer and know like every single doctor worth anything but wil always support any advancement that can improve patient care. Especially in a field like ours that has not proof you can see like for a pain doctor
Posted by lsuguy13
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:27 pm to
Just go to a medical detox. Benzo is one of the most dangerous. I work in the field if you want suggestions. Username at gmail
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:29 pm to
Inpatient detoxing from benzos is a almost unwatchable experience. I did residency in a inpatient facility. I like parts of it but those places have the worst nurse staffs on planet earth
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:55 pm to
I came off oxycontin for 9 broken ribs I suffered this year. If you've been on it long enough, withdrawal is inevitable. It's best to just bite the bullet and get off. Ask your health care provider. Maybe reduce by .5 every couple of weeks.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 2:28 pm to
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am a doctor. That specializes in anxiety disorders among a few other things. Klonopin shouldn’t be split and taper very carefully using compound pharmacies unless it’s a dose low enough where no true danger is present




Why can't you just bite them in half like every other pill known to man?

If you got down to .5 mg of an Klonopin, do that for a week and you're home free.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 2:31 pm to
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Why can't you just bite them in half like every other pill known to man?



Because you're not supposed to "bite in half" every other pill known to man as quite a few these days have time released coatings.
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
49265 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 2:42 pm to
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Klonopin is a very helpful medicine I use it often for the correct reasons but it is just as potent as Xanax with 3x the staying power


Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:03 pm to
I have trouble remembering what I did when I take Klonipin. It’s almost like I black out.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:49 pm to
Why are you laughing? Do you think you know more benzo potency half-lives long term and short term blood levels and peaks administration? If you think you do I’d love to debate Benzodiazepines all 20 commonly used around the world, the 15 major stimulants, the 15 or so opioids most commonly used in North America. Then we can move into atypical antipsychotics and which generation you adhere to when treating patients presenting with possible bi polar or borderline. Also remind what’s the therapeutic level of lithium in blood before breakfast?

Your genius being here just could save a patient from a thyroid issue. You’re basically god
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:02 pm to
Not to mention I spent my day off emailing concerned fellow posters and giving them the best peace of mind I can without giving a proper assessment.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:07 pm to
And I offer the open invitation. I won’t be able to provide a full on service without a full history and intake but I’d anyone ever wants to speak to a psychiatrist about Anxiety/Depressson/PTSD/BPD/Bi-Polar/Addiction and anything that’s general without needing a specialist I I’ll always do my best. The stigma around mental health is still way too extreme so sticking together online for people who may need help but are ashamed to say it email me day or night
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:43 pm to
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That is exactly why no self respecting psychiatrist will give Xanax to anyone. Especially as people age.


You are 100% correct. I didn’t know any better. All I knew was my anxiety level was tolerable. I think I stayed on those little blue footballs for so long I didn’t feel normal when I got off of them. That same doctor also got involved in pain management. Go figure. Long story short he had everyone except me in Little Rock addicted to a variety of pain medications. After America started consuming 80% of the opiates in the world and people started dropping like flies the DEA got involved and shut him down. Had his family not have been entrenched in Arkansas politics I’m pretty sure he would have went to jail versus the slap on the wrist the DEA gave him. The man went to Europe for 2 years then came back and opened his psychiatry practice right back up.
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