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re: Has anyone in here successfully weened off benzodiazepines?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:17 am to td01241
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:17 am to td01241
quote:Yeahhhh thats not true. Theres no reason to prescribe it regularly as in “take it once a day as needed,” but it is incredibly helpful for people that have rare panic attacks where there bodies go into a severe state of crazy. If you are able to control yourself and not take it recreationally of course. Too many doctors are afraid to get their patients addicted though. Although, at the end of the day, it is a very helpful drug to have in your medicine cabinet for emergencies.
There is not one single legitimate medical reason to EVER give someone Xanax
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:18 am to td01241
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No offense but I’m guessing you’re in your 40s at least? Amble indisputable research has show how benzos for PTSD is a absolutely horrible idea just to point one thing out. The thinking about these medicines specifically is going under rapid change quicker than usual in medicine. No one gives Xanax anymore because any number of other medicines can do what it needs to do without subjecting the patient to as much possible bad outcomes
Close to 40. Xanax worked for me, only other thing I was given was Paxil. I gave it a month and got off of it, hated it. Xanax did the job for me, wonderfully. I haven’t had one in probably 5-6 years
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:19 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:19 am to loopback
Sent
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:20 am to td01241
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Do you know what a scored pill is? And why they are?
You can still cut them, but no, I don’t know why Klonopin is scored.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:21 am to Ryan3232
Research shows that Ativan can act within 3-5 minutes of Xanax. Lastc3-4 hours longer, has no rebound anxiety, and is about 25% less potent and much much less likely to be abused or filled early at pharmacies
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:22 am to Gcockboi
Benzos are easy, it was the roxies that really had their hook.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:22 am to windshieldman
Klonopin isn’t. It is a major oversight. Scores are the lines in the middle that lets you know each side has exactly half the dose. So Percocet 10mg tablets have scored line. You can break it in half and be able to be positive you’re getting 5mf. If you split a Klonopin you might get all 2mg or not a single bit.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:23 am to td01241
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Research shows that Ativan can act within 3-5 minutes of Xanax. Lastc3-4 hours longer, has no rebound anxiety, and is about 25% less potent and much much less likely to be abused or filled early at pharmacies
I’ve never taken Ativan but have given it to plenty of people IV/IM. It does work well
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:23 am to td01241
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Well obviously but he has definitely described early stages of benzo abuse. A lot of times it is easier To build up confidence from some professional anonymously before approaching your doc
Fair enough. I responded before reading replies, specifically yours loaded with good info/advice.
I will say it is frightening how popular Xanax is with high school and college kids. Couple of kids my 16 year old son knows have been busted with them at school.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:24 am to td01241
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Klonopin isn’t. It is a major oversight. Scores are the lines in the middle that lets you know each side has exactly half the dose. So Percocet 10mg tablets have scored line. You can break it in half and be able to be positive you’re getting 5mf. If you split a Klonopin you might get all 2mg or not a single bit.
I know what scoring is just didn’t know as far as Klonopin. Every website I’ve checked all say they are safe to break in half, including Drugs.com.
Eta: Would be smart to speak to a doctor of course
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:28 am to Gcockboi
I quit cold turkey last July after over 10 years of use.
Medicinal marijuana saved me.
Medicinal marijuana saved me.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:37 am to windshieldman
I am a doctor. That specializes in anxiety disorders among a few other things. Klonopin shouldn’t be split and taper very carefully using compound pharmacies unless it’s a dose low enough where no true danger is present
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:38 am to Gcockboi
I had a horrible addiction to xanax that I quit cold Turkey.
What a miserable experience
What a miserable experience
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:43 am to td01241
But like I said I taper mostly on 12 month schedules rarely do I have someone on 3mg a day. We work down from 12-14. Seen as high as 24
Full disclosure the 24mg a day was a seizure patient and FDA allows them up to 20 but still that’s a frick ton of Klonopin
Full disclosure the 24mg a day was a seizure patient and FDA allows them up to 20 but still that’s a frick ton of Klonopin
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:47 am to td01241
quote:Oh I assume you meant there was no point in prescribing xanax because there is a better product out there. Well I wont argue if thats the case. Im unfamiliar with Ativan though.
Research shows that Ativan can act within 3-5 minutes of Xanax. Lastc3-4 hours longer, has no rebound anxiety, and is about 25% less potent and much much less likely to be abused or filled early at pharmacies
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:47 am to td01241
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people from residency universally swear off Xanax. There is not one single legitimate medical reason to EVER give someone Xanax.
All drugs should be legal and otc.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:47 am to Gcockboi
I did it just 2 months ago on a 10 day taper, taking the same amount as you. Exercise is your best friend when weening of benzodiazepines and staying busy.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:47 am to td01241
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I am a doctor. That specializes in anxiety disorders among a few other things. Klonopin shouldn’t be split and taper very carefully using compound pharmacies unless it’s a dose low enough where no true danger is present
Why didn’t you say all this earlier
the doctor part who specializes in that? Just wanted to keep me limping along? Lol. I use to break my Xanax in half, as a matter of fact every time I took them it was a half dose. I’ll take what you say and agree with you, doesn’t mean I wouldn’t break them in half myself if I was on Klonopin, but others should take a doctor’s advice over a medics for sure, obviously. I appreciate you being cordial, as my initial remark was far from it but I ETAd that. I still will say the guy who prescribed me Xanax was also a doctor and that was after I tried Paxil. I don’t feel at all he’s a quack, and he’s been a very very good doctor to me on other things like when I had a heart scare. My department uses him and he’s a wonderful guy who will absolutely not throw you on a benzo first thing. But as a said, Xanax helped me
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:51 am to windshieldman
I thought I made it clear I was a psychiatrist specializing in this. Xanax is fine to break infact every benzo but Klonopin is. It makes absolutely no sense. Scoring medications that need precise dosages (Oxy, Xanax, Klonopin, Desoxyn(yes meth is available as a pill form prescription) should always be scored so you know the exact amount instead of risking getting all of it or none of it
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:52 am to Ryan3232
It’s not that it’s BETTER Xanax is fricking amazing and one of the single most effective drugs for its intended purpose. It’s about how it’s about the worst possible thing you could allow yourself to ever even slightly come to depend on
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