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re: Has anyone here ever pulled a gun on someone?

Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12230 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:12 pm to
Nope, ain't shot anyone yet.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:26 pm to
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but as a leo


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Same here. July 27th,.....what’s yours?


Correct me if I'm off base here. But...


So let me get this straight.

Law enforcement officers supposedly are being killed left and right and their lives are always in danger, back the badge, Thin Blue Line, etc etc. Yet the one time you've had to draw your weapon you remember the exact day it happened?

Hell, I'm a civilian and I've had cops pull their guns on me more than once and I've never even been arrested.

The way some people talk you would think the average cop is dodging bullets like the Matrix every week. Are y'all Mall cops or something?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:30 pm to
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Two people in my neighborhood have had confused drunks break into their houses


Apparently, accidental drunk nagger knocking is at epidemic levels. Might have something to do with all the track housing in this country. Get a little tipsy and you forget which of the three house plans you picked when they built your thousand-home subdivision.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20261 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:32 pm to
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HubbaBubba


That was me, baw. Thought you were my Uber.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:38 pm to
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If you pull a gun and don't fire, you're wrong


What does the ready position have to do with justification or expectations? There are several stages of fear and danger.

On a normal day just strolling down the street you might not even carry your firearm with you. On a normal day strolling down a New Orleans Street you'll probably have it with you but won't think much about it. On a normal night on a new Orleans Street you'll have it with you and you'll be thinking about it. On a normal night on a New Orleans street and four or five dreaded 20-somethings walking towards you you'll have it on you, be thinking about it and have your hand on it. On a normal night on a New Orleans Street with four five dreaded 20-somethings stopping you and telling you they're going to frick you up you'll have it on you, be thinking about it, have your hand on it and have it drawn.

If you've gotten to this point in our hypothetical then what happens next is up to them not predestined based on the fact that your firearm is out
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20408 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:38 pm to
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but as a leo quote: Same here. July 27th,.....what’s yours? Correct me if I'm off base here. But... So let me get this straight. Law enforcement officers supposedly are being killed left and right and their lives are always in danger, back the badge, Thin Blue Line, etc etc. Yet the one time you've had to draw your weapon you remember the exact day it happened?


I am hoping you got that he was referring to Leo the Zodiac sign? As a joke on the other guys use of LEO (Law Enforcement Officer)? Seeing as that a July 27 birthday would make you a Leo.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:41 pm to
Yep.

I'm dense.

Lol
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:44 pm to
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I'm not going to bow down and cave to some druggie POS who threatens me in a parking lot, much less one who's separating my child from the family with drugs and manipulation. You might be able to live like that, I'm going to deal with it instead


All of that sounds good and I agree with you in theory but in practice those actions are over the top. You can't just go around drawing down on everybody who's lifestyle you disagree with. If the guy made specific articulable and actionable Threats to your life or great bodily harm then you might be justified if your reactions to that are deemed reasonable. You didn't elaborate on the details of your specific situation but if it's as simple as some drug dealer was telling me he was going to kick my arse and selling my kid drugs then sticking a pistol in his mouth isn't going to be deemed reasonable in any court of law

As someone else mentioned, it's ultimately the individual responsibility of your child to decide what they're going to do with their life. As a parent all we can really do is prepare them to make sound decisions. It's not like she cant go find another drug dealer. What if that dealer force you to pull the trigger? You'd be sitting in jail right now and your kid would be a smack head and likely way worse off
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:56 pm to
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man opened his trunk and grabbed 2 pistols


Most criminals are dumb but at least this criminal was smart enough to prepare for a New York City reload.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:00 pm to
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This is exactly how I was raised, if I am going to point a gun at somebody, I'll be pulling the trigger


So if you could diffuse a potentially life-threatening situation you'd rather just keep your pistol concealed until you're forced to pull the trigger and end another human's life?

I'm not saying wave it around and brandish it anytime shite gets sticky but there's plenty of scenarios were just the presentation of a firearm means that everybody walks away safely and nobody gets hurt
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:01 pm to
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All of that sounds good and I agree with you in theory but in practice those actions are over the top. You can't just go around drawing down on everybody who's lifestyle you disagree with.


That's clearly not what happened, see my earlier posts.

I'm comfortable with my decision in light of the location and his actions/threats to me. No, not going to spell out details here.

I'm also comfortable that had "that dealer force[d me] to pull the trigger" (and I commend you on recognizing he would have been responsible for that happening), his status as a convicted dealer, location, and my status as a fine upstanding father would have inured to my benefit.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:09 pm to
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I try to be respectful to everyone, don't flaunt whatever wealth I own in front of anyone, and I walk away from arguments when they become escalated because no argument is worth dying over. I've always lived my life this way. I try to be fully aware of my surroundings at all times


This is great advice.

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I've never felt the need to own a gun nor have I ever shot one. never felt the need to own a gun for protection at any point in my life.


This isn't.

I've never felt the NEED to own a fire extinguisher but I have one and I know how to use it to put out a fire. I've never heard my fire alarm go off but I still own one.

Firearms are like fire alarms. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:22 pm to
Fair enough.

Like I said, details were short so I had to work with what you gave us.

Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3885 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 5:45 pm to
When I was living in an apartment in BR. It's the arse crack of dawn and I'm in the shower, just woke up. I hear a few incredibly loud bangs and immediately turn the shower off. Listen for a second then 3 or 4 more bangs, much louder and it seems like the building is shaking. At this point I'm positive someone is trying to break down my door.

I throw on a towel, grab my .40, and run into the living room. Then I hear the sound of really violent prying and destruction of wood. Look at the large back window and see two silhouettes through the shades. I don't know why they'd be trying to break in through the window like that, but my brain knows that they are. I run out the back door, never put a bead on them but they can see me holding the gun.

It's two Mexicans, one on a step ladder. The one on the ladder just bails into the bushes and the other one starts pointing at another building yelling "super!!" (Neither spoke a lick of English). I look over there and see a whole construction group working on another building. Turns out the complex was replacing all of the windows in one of their buildings that week (building 8). Building 8 had been notified of work times, etc. I was in building 9. Well these two guys had a typo on their work order that mistakenly said building 9. Rather than question why they had one window at a different building, they just strolled across the courtyard and started busting out my window frame. I wish the apartment had video of it, I'm sure it would have been hilarious.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 6:05 pm to
Pulled mine a few times on Hadji
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