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re: Has 20% become the new standard for tipping?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:11 am to rowbear1922
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:11 am to rowbear1922
Just about every time I am good with 20% on the bill.
Exception can be wine. 20% on a couple of $50 - $60 bottles is good, but not quite the same on a couple of $140 bottles.
At some meals, I will tip more if some in the group are just drinking water as the server is still working on refills.
Effort by the server plays a part as well. And it should IMHO.
The Donte Jackson receipt is "interesting".
Exception can be wine. 20% on a couple of $50 - $60 bottles is good, but not quite the same on a couple of $140 bottles.
At some meals, I will tip more if some in the group are just drinking water as the server is still working on refills.
Effort by the server plays a part as well. And it should IMHO.
The Donte Jackson receipt is "interesting".
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:11 am to rowbear1922
They make $2.13 an hour but have to reach minimum wage through tips or the restaurant has to cover the costs.
Also, I was a waiter at one point and understand what it takes to be a good server. Things shouldn't be handed out because you think no matter what, they should get 20%. There is no incentive to be better.
Also, I was a waiter at one point and understand what it takes to be a good server. Things shouldn't be handed out because you think no matter what, they should get 20%. There is no incentive to be better.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 11:18 am
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:14 am to Placebeaux
quote:Louisiana sales tax is too high for that
A rule of thumb is to double the sales tax and that's the tip. Houma has 10.5 sales tax so 21% tip.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:14 am to TxTiger82
Oh yeah and I usually tip delivery folks pretty well. Driving my food out to me is the ultimate service, and they get long-term fricked on car maintenance.
I hate the "delivery fee," though, that goes to the company and not the driver. Total ripoff. How is it more expensive to send the pizza out? I don't get it.
I hate the "delivery fee," though, that goes to the company and not the driver. Total ripoff. How is it more expensive to send the pizza out? I don't get it.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:15 am to BuyloSellhi
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Exception can be wine. 20% on a couple of $50 - $60 bottles is good, but not quite the same on a couple of $140 bottles.
See I would disagree but that is in part due to the time and effort it can take if the place has a somm and properly stores the wine.
I've sold a $3500 bottle before and didn't expect the server to get the full 20% on that
(surprisingly, he did)
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:16 am to BuyloSellhi
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Just about every time I am good with 20% on the bill.
this, 20% is about as low as ill go. 25% is the norm, 30% if they really blow me away with their service.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:16 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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They make $2.13 an hour but have to reach minimum wage through tips or the restaurant has to cover the costs.
You are correct and it is rare that a server with tips makes below minimum wage but that doesn't justify being a shitty tipper. Working in service industry (fine dining at least) is a lot harder work than anything I have done since and for WAYYYY less money.
ETA: I would venture to guess anyone that tips below 20% regularly never once worked in a restaurant.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 11:18 am
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:27 am to rowbear1922
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You are correct and it is rare that a server with tips makes below minimum wage but that doesn't justify being a shitty tipper. Working in service industry (fine dining at least) is a lot harder work than anything I have done since and for WAYYYY less money.
20% is not a shitty tip, man.
Let's say that a server has 5 tables in rotation and each table is around $100 a bill and tips 20%. That is 100 dollars in around 2 hours if the parties stay for an extended time. So 100 + 4.26 is $104.26 in 2 hours and makes it $52.13 an hour. If the server only works 4 hours, that is $208.52 a day. That would equate to $26.07 an hour to a typical 8 hour workshift. Do you really think that is not good? I know there are tip outs and such but it still can be over an average persons salary. If they are in a higher end restaurant those $100 bills should be more on average.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:31 am to rowbear1922
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I would venture to guess anyone that tips below 20% regularly never once worked in a restaurant.
I have worked as a server and understand what goes on in the kitchen and on the floor. When I go to a nicer restaurant, I typically see better and more fluid service and will tip 20% or greater.
My original quoted text was more of a guideline. It's typically
10% if you are god awful
15% if you did nothing wrong but didn't do anything extra
20% if you made an impression for me to at least notice you did a good job
+20% if you did an amazing job and made the experience great
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:38 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Let's say that a server has 5 tables in rotation and each table is around $100 a bill and tips 20%. That is 100 dollars in around 2 hours if the parties stay for an extended time. So 100 + 4.26 is $104.26 in 2 hours and makes it $52.13 an hour. If the server only works 4 hours, that is $208.52 a day. That would equate to $26.07 an hour to a typical 8 hour workshift. Do you really think that is not good? I know there are tip outs and such but it still can be over an average persons salary. If they are in a higher end restaurant those $100 bills should be more on average.
I said less than 20% to begin. By your logic, the server has 10 tables a night. Unless you are working an extremly busy fast service place, you aren't getting 10 tables a night. At least from where I worked, you may go a whole weekend without that many tables. If that were the case, no server is getting out of there in 4 hours.
From my experience, the server got there at 4 and would get 3-4 tables a night and leave around 11 and sometimes much later. On a good night, you would make on avg. ~$100. The better you are at your job, the more you can make. If you work parties or can sell wine, the better. there are also nights where you can show up at 4, get no tables or 1 table and don't leave until 7:30-8 pm and if you made anything it is like $20. It goes both ways.
Certain holidays, like Valentines, yes you get many more tables but you have much lower bills and even worse tip percentages.
Can you work in a restaurant and make $40,000-$50,000 or more? Absolutely but that is working it full-time plus OT (if they allowed it). Obviously the bigger the city and nicer the restaurant, you can make a lot more (some Nola servers make over $100k).
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:41 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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My original quoted text was more of a guideline. It's typically
10% if you are god awful
15% if you did nothing wrong but didn't do anything extra
20% if you made an impression for me to at least notice you did a good job
+20% if you did an amazing job and made the experience great
All of that I can agree with but for me its 20% if you did nothing wrong.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:42 am to LSUtigerME
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Double the whole dollars including tax.
Wait, you tip the 20% including tax?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:52 am to rowbear1922
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All of that I can agree with but for me its 20% if you did nothing wrong.
I also include the tax in my calculations if that helps.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:54 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I also include the tax in my calculations if that helps.
As do I. Move the decimal to the left once and double.
You have to truly be a terrible server (I.e a guy at California Pizza Kitchen once) for me to give less than 20%.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:08 pm to rowbear1922
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They get a standard 15. If they were really good, they get 20. If they sucked, they get 10.
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If you can't afford the tip, you cannot afford to go out to dinner.
What does what the poster's comment have to do with being able to afford to tip? The poster sees a tip as something that has to be earned, not a entitlement, and adjusts the tip percentage accordingly something I totally agree with.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:53 pm to TxTiger82
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Baristas get tipped for a complicated coffee, they get my change or nothing at all for a pre-brewed black coffee.
Bartenders get $1/round for beer, 20% for cocktails.
Sandwich artists get nothing.
Takeout gets nothing.
Hairdresser gets generous tip ~ 30-40% -- definitely want to stay on their good side.
Taxi drivers get rounded up ~ i.e. $20 for an $18 fare.
I avoid airport/hotel porters.
I'm pretty much the same. My hairdresser is around 50% though since it's only $15. I usually make it $21-$22.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:17 pm to EA6B
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What does what the poster's comment have to do with being able to afford to tip? The poster sees a tip as something that has to be earned, not a entitlement, and adjusts the tip percentage accordingly something I totally agree with.
I wasn't specifically referring to his amount. If that is his standard, it is his standard. I don't agree with it but that doesn't matter. Believe me, after working as long as I did in service industry, it definitely must be earned and depending on service it will vary.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:19 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I also include the tax in my calculations if that helps.
Why would you tip on the tax?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:31 pm to TxTiger82
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Why would you tip on the tax?
If you had a $100 meal, you are still only talking about $2 more than if you didn't tip on the tax (presuming 20% tip).
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:41 pm to TxTiger82
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Why would you tip on the tax?
No reason other than being lazy and not looking a little bit further up and seeing the subtotal.
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