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re: Harvey ***Catastrophic Flooding Event***

Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:33 pm to
Can anyone tell me what to expect in opelousas/Eunice? Haven't had a storm since moving out here. Been through all the BR storms starting with Andrew
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

And there's the full eyewall. Took like half an hour from my previous post...damn.


Got damn!

That got together quick.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18049 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:34 pm to
Expect to watch Texas drown for 3 days while you wait for models to sort out the track into Louisiana.
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
93585 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:35 pm to
Just got this from AccuWeather - I'm in Austin:


This product covers SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS

**Hurricane Harvey expected to bring a life-threatening heavy rainfall
event across South Central Texas**

NEW INFORMATION
---------------

* CHANGES TO WATCHES AND WARNINGS:
- None

* CURRENT WATCHES AND WARNINGS:
- A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for Atascosa, Bastrop,
Bexar, Caldwell, Fayette, Gonzales, Guadalupe, Lavaca, and
Wilson
- A Hurricane Warning is in effect for De Witt and Karnes

* STORM INFORMATION:
- About 450 miles south-southeast of Austin TX or about 370 miles
southeast of Cuero TX
- 24.7N 93.9W
- Storm Intensity 85 mph
- Movement North-northwest or 330 degrees at 10 mph

SITUATION OVERVIEW
------------------

Harvey continues to strengthen and is now a Category One Hurricane.
Harvey is still moving slowly northwestward in the Gulf of Mexico. This
northwestward movement is expected to continue and Harvey should
approach the Texas coast late Friday into Saturday. Confidence
continues to increase for tropical storm winds and a significant heavy
rainfall event across South Central Texas beginning Friday afternoon
and continuing through Tuesday. Flash flooding and river flooding
continue to be the main concerns, mainly within the Tropical Storm
Warning and Flash Flood Watch areas.

Hurricane Harvey will produce a life-threatening heavy rainfall event.
Storm total rainfall amounts from Friday through Tuesday could be in
the 10 to 20 inch range along and east of Interstate 35 with isolated
totals in excess of 25 inches possible over areas south of Interstate
10 as Harvey is expected to stall over the area. Devastating mainstem
river flooding is possible east of Interstate 35 and south of
Interstate 10.

Additionally, hurricane force winds of 70 to 80 mph will be possible
for the counties within the Hurricane Warning, while 40 to 50 mph
winds with some gusts to 60 mph will be possible for areas within the
Tropical Storm Warning. The timing of these winds look to arrive Friday
night through Saturday morning. There is a low risk of brief tornadoes
east of Interstate 35 and south of Interstate 10 Friday evening into
the weekend associated with tropical rain bands.

POTENTIAL IMPACTS
-----------------

* FLOODING RAIN:
Protect against life-threatening rainfall flooding having possible
devastating impacts across areas east of Interstate 35 and south of
Interstate 10. Potential impacts include:
- Extreme rainfall flooding may prompt numerous evacuations and
rescues.
- Rivers and tributaries may overwhelmingly overflow their banks
in many places with deep moving water. Small streams, creeks,
canals, arroyos, and ditches may become raging rivers. In
mountain areas, deadly runoff may rage down valleys while
increasing susceptibility to rockslides and mudslides. Flood
control systems and barriers may become stressed.
- Flood waters can enter numerous structures within multiple
communities, some structures becoming uninhabitable or washed
away. Numerous places where flood waters may cover escape
routes. Streets and parking lots become rivers of raging water
with underpasses submerged. Driving conditions become very
dangerous. Numerous road and bridge closures with some weakened
or washed out.

Protect against life-threatening rainfall flooding having possible
limited to extensive impacts across areas along and east of the
Interstate 35 Corridor.

* WIND:
Protect against life-threatening wind having possible devastating
impacts across areas in the Tropical Storm and Hurricane Warnings
mainly east of Interstate 35. Potential impacts in this area include:
- Structural damage to sturdy buildings, some with complete roof
and wall failures. Complete destruction of mobile homes. Damage
greatly accentuated by large airborne projectiles. Locations
may be uninhabitable for weeks or months.
- Numerous large trees snapped or uprooted along with fences and
roadway signs blown over.
- Many roads impassable from large debris, and more within urban
or heavily wooded places. Many bridges, causeways, and access
routes impassable.
- Widespread power and communications outages.

Also, protect against life-threatening wind having possible limited
to extensive impacts across areas along and east of the Interstate 35
Corridor.

* TORNADOES:
Protect against a tornado event having possible limited impacts across
areas within the Tropical Storm and Hurricane Warnings. Potential
impacts include:
- The occurrence of isolated tornadoes can hinder the execution
of emergency plans during tropical events.
- A few places may experience tornado damage, along with power
and communications disruptions.
- Locations could realize roofs peeled off buildings, chimneys
toppled, mobile homes pushed off foundations or overturned,
large tree tops and branches snapped off, shallow-rooted trees
knocked over, moving vehicles blown off roads, and small boats
pulled from moorings.

Elsewhere across SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS, little to no impact is
anticipated.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS
----------------------------------

* OTHER PREPAREDNESS INFORMATION:
|Now is the time to bring to completion all preparations to protect
life and property in accordance with your emergency plan.

Check-in with your emergency points of contact among family, friends,
and workmates. Inform them of your status and well-being. Let them know
how you intend to ride out the storm and when you plan to check-in
again.

In emergencies it is best to remain calm. Stay informed and focused
on the situation at hand. Exercise patience with those you encounter.
Be a Good Samaritan and helpful to others.

If relocating to a nearby shelter or to the home of a family member
or friend, drive with extra caution, especially on secondary roads.
Remember, many bridges and causeways will be closed once higher winds
arrive. Also, if you encounter water covering the road, seek an
alternate route. Always obey official road signs for closures and
detours.

Closely monitor NOAA Weather radio or other local news outlets for
official storm information. Be ready to adapt to possible changes to
the forecast.

* ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF INFORMATION:
- For information on appropriate preparations see ready.gov
- For information on creating an emergency plan see getagameplan.org
- For additional disaster preparedness information see redcross.org

NEXT UPDATE
-----------

The next local statement will be issued by the National Weather
Service in Austin/San Antonio TX around 11 PM CDT, or sooner if
conditions warrant.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7562 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Well, the WPC has updated the QPF maps...

So if I'm reading this right, Baton Rouge proper is smack dab in the 5-7 inch rainfall zone, correct? And if the worse case strength/path occurs, we would receive TS force winds at some point? Or would they be lower?
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
93585 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

And there's the full eyewall. Took like half an hour from my previous post...damn.


Harv came here to drink whiskey and kick arse...and he's all outta whiskey.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Expect to watch Texas drown for 3 days while you wait for models to sort out the track into Louisiana.


That's a pretty good summation at this point.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:36 pm to


ever see a map where Sunday is several hundred miles south of saturday?

this is crazy
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:37 pm to
So Pat Shingleton on the WBRZ 2 Baton Rouge facebook just showed a model that put the storm going ashore in Tx and then curving southwest and burying itself in Mexico


That goes against everything ive seen here. Wtf
Posted by GeauxTigers2525
Member since May 2017
102 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

And there's the full eyewall. Took like half an hour from my previous post...damn.



gotta believe its starting to feel the eddy of warm water now, next 6-12 hrs is gonna be mighty interesting to see how it handles that influx of fuel to increase intensity.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:37 pm to
GFS is basically on the same track it was at the 12z run through 36 hours. Only difference is it takes it into Texas a bit faster, so we'll see what kind of impact that has on the end result.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:37 pm to
Just wondering bc we are already getting bands in Eunice
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105234 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:38 pm to
Is there anything positive we can hang our hat on at this point? Some chance that this won't be a calamity, at least for LA?
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3997 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Can anyone tell me what to expect in opelousas/Eunice?



A spike in crime.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68221 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

So Pat Shingleton on the WBRZ 2 Baton Rouge facebook just showed a model that put the storm going ashore in Tx and then curving southwest and burying itself in Mexico That goes against everything ive seen here. Wtf


He and Harvey have been hitting the same sauce
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Some chance that this won't be a calamity, at least for LA?


The best thing LA has going for it is that the significant effects are still 3-4 days out, at a minimum. That introduces plenty of chances for error, which could be a good thing or a bad thing.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:41 pm to
That's been happening anyway
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

For who? LA or TX?

Yes.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68221 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

That introduces plenty of chances for error, which could be a good thing or a bad thing.


I'm no storm guru, but I honestly find it hard to believe that the storm will follow the exact path that they laid out. I expect it to hit Texas, then peter off. Maybe bring some rain to west LA, but then die out.
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
7132 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

So Pat Shingleton on the WBRZ 2 Baton Rouge facebook just showed a model that put the storm going ashore in Tx and then curving southwest and burying itself in Mexic


You ever notice Pat's title is "Chief Forecaster"? It's because he's not a meteorologist and has no clue what he's talking about.
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