re: Happy Reformation Day!

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You, as a Catholic, don’t believe that, I, as a Baptist can be saved without being a member of the Catholic Church.

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We should see ourselves as Salesmen for our denominations. We are not in Management. God is The Manager. His Will sends Souls to their Final Destination.

We are mere Mortals. We should act as Salesmen and stop trying to condemn one another. Leave that to Management.

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Show me anywhere in Catholic doctrine or catechism that backs up your opinion

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Without delving too far into this, because I really don't care, the fact that you pray to Mary.

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Still better than the pedophiles.

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Nah, they just had a head start and controlled the narrative.

The protestants will catch up eventually in their race to the bottom

Council of Trent is fine, but, the more complete articulation of Roman Catholic belief and doctrine is found in the Catechism, which is published on-line and anybody can read it for free.

You can find complete explanations of the Trent Canons you cited in the Catechism

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to the previous reviler, i'm not blathering about anything. I literally pasted in the direct text of Canons of Trent.

And to you, I know the Catechism. The plain words above are res ispa loquitur.

My point was someone said RCs don't say non RCs are damned. But to the extent they don't believe that, they aren't actually RCs.

And here's a catechism for you on the blasphemy of necromancy

Catechism of the Catholic Church (1992)

§ 969 restates Lumen Gentium:

“This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterrupted…
Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”

I mean, people, awake from your dogmatic slumber and see this treachery for what it really is. Abject blasphemy.

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ETA I absolutely believe that faith without works is fruitless.

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that isn't what those Canons anathematize. And you know that. Trickery and sophistry will not work on me. I would bet big money i know RC doctrine and history better than 99% of RCs. Easy bet.

Here's a little more blathering aka exposition of Scripture. Just to put the absurd James arguments to bed. I've been working on this summary for a while, because this pat argument is always raised.


James 2:24 — “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”

Some claim that James 2:24 seems to contradict Paul’s declarations such as Romans 3:28 and Galatians 2:16.

However, James and Paul very clearly use the same Greek word dikaioo in different senses and contexts.

The verb dikaioo means “to justify” but carries two legitimate senses in Scripture and in Greek usage:

Sense 1. Forensic (Legal) Justification — “To declare righteous before God.”
• Rooted in the law court metaphor: a judge declaring a defendant righteous.
• Passive, with God as Judge; the sinner is declared righteous through the imputed righteousness of Christ (Romans 4:5–8).
• This is the soteriological sense.

Sense 2. Demonstrative (Vindicative) Justification — “To show or prove righteous.”
• Active, human perspective: one’s righteousness is shown genuine by works.
• Example: Luke 7:35 — “Wisdom is justified by her children.”
• Thus, while Paul uses dikaioo for divine declaration, James uses it for human demonstration.

Context: James’s Argument in Chapter 2

James contrasts dead faith (mere profession) with living faith (that
produces works). He addresses not the basis of salvation but the evidence of genuine faith.

OT (as in Old Testament) EXAMPLES:
• Abraham — Already declared righteous by faith in Genesis 15:6, later vindicated in Genesis 22 by offering Isaac.
• Rahab — Her faith was shown real by hiding the spies.
James 2:22 clarifies: “Faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works.”

Harmonizing with Paul in context--
Paul and James address different errors:

• Paul’s focus: The root of justification. His opponents were legalists who sought salvation through law.
• James’s focus: The fruit of justification. His opponents were antinomians who claimed faith without obedience.

Thus, Paul speaks of justification before God; James speaks of the demonstration of faith before men.

“We are justified by faith alone, but the faith that justifies is never alone.” (the “other” JC)


James’s Own Theological Consistency
James consistently affirms salvation by grace alone:
• James 1:18 — “Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth.”
• James 2:5 — God chose the poor to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom.
• James 4:6 — “He gives more grace.”

Therefore, James complements rather than contradicts Paul.

We don’t say non Catholics are damned because it is not our place to say so. Those outright judgements are sinful. I am not God and thus can only pray for your conversion and salvation if God wills it so. Who am I to judge what God deems worthy or not?

The things I can say are things like this: Protestant religions are derivative of Catholic beliefs and are thus solely dependent on the supposed error of the RCC for their own legitimacy. Like it or not. We don’t carry that burden in the RCC. We do carry the burden of the fallible humans that have marred the reputation of the Church from today all the way back to St. Peter, however. We pray for God to guide our leaders to greater and greater faith and understand that they are fallible as human beings. The rank and file Catholics don’t like bad actors in the priesthood any more than those outside of the church fyi.

I actually do believe that people of other faiths can go to heaven if God wills it. Especially those who were never introduced to him or those who were not ever invited to join the RCC.

I pray to the Saints and to Mary to intercede with God for the conversion and / or salvation of all of humanity.

Teaching false doctrine is not good. Also, 99% of Priests are not pedophiles.

Catholic Answers has info on this

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Mary was sinless , then why did she need to be saved? What from? By whom?

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Mary's Savior is the Triune God. She says so herself when she speaks to Elizabeth at the Visitation. She needed to be Saved so that the Mother of God could serve her purpose and her God. Eve was born without Sin. It is only fitting that the Mary also be born without Sin.