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re: Hanging out in Ukraine

Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6143 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:44 pm to
I'm a few hours from Donbas.

The older population that can no longer work, tend to suffer the most. Some are living on $100 a month. They are working their gardens at 80 years old to have something to eat.

I read an article on an Ukrainian orphanage. Oddly enough, most of the children have parents. The parents are either heavy alcoholics are simply can't afford them.

The wife's Grandmother was a surgeon, both her parents are Doctors and my wife was a pediatrician but they lived in what we would consider poverty. By Ukrainian standards they did pretty good but not by ours. My wife was making about $450 a month as a pediatrician here. The cost of living here is low, but she couldn't afford a vehicle and lived in one bedroom apartment that would compare to our slums. That would pretty much put her on par with most Ukrainians.

They have told me some sad stories. Ukrainians have free health care but have to pay for the prescriptions. Sadly enough, many can't afford them.

For example they might need a C-section but can't afford the medicine to have it done, so have no choice but to go natural birth, risking the life of their baby and themselvs.
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
5616 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:48 pm to
Is she a DR here now? Or is all that work she did pointless ?
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3197 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:51 pm to
Ukraine or Nola, which is worse?!
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6143 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:55 pm to
Her degree transfers but she would have to pass the USMLE exam and then do residency again.

The first part of USMLE is what you learned in med school. That was 10 years ago for her, and in a second language to her. She pursued it, but it was too difficult of a path.

Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:56 pm to
Have you been to Lviv? It looks like an interesting city.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10263 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:59 pm to
How many times did yall meet in-person before getting serious?

So you support the family and she does not work when home in the states?

Fascinating stuff
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
10914 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:00 pm to
Did you HoRndogs get your wish for wife and ukraine womens pics yet?

Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

The wife never heard of him. Google list a soccer (football) and a politician with that name.


Surely she’s heard of Andriy Shevchenko though
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6143 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:07 pm to
We met 3 times before she came to the states. Then you have 90 days to figure out if you are going to go through with it. It's crazy really.

You just take an attitude of we will give it a try and see. The language barriers and cultural differences made for some challenges.

We are closing in on our 7th year and it has gone fairly well but it doesn't always work. There are a fair share of divorces with the 90 day bride thing
Posted by Doublebagger
Member since Mar 2021
960 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:10 pm to
How did you meet?
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6143 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:14 pm to
Another politician/soccer guy.

My wife isn't into either and hasn't lived in Ukraine since 2015.

I stayed with brother-in-law grandmother for a week. She was 103, could drink me under the table and watched soccer all day yelling at the television. I bet she would know them.
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6143 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:15 pm to

No lviv
Yet
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6143 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:16 pm to
Her Aunt lives in Miami and made her a profile on match.com
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:22 pm to
Whoa! Your wife and her family sure have some impressive credentials. My suggestion. Try to get them out of there. Bring'um here to the USA. Lord, knows we can use some good surgeons and doctors.

I've met a few slavics and I have to say I'm impressed by them. The ones I know (albeit very few) are definitely an asset to our country.

Sounds to me this conflict in Ukraine could get nasty really really fast. Contrary to the expectations of the locals.

I know it's hard to leave the land of your ancestors, but sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Bloom where you're transplanted I always say. That's what my ancestors did.

Good Luck!
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 1:28 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111690 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Ukrainians don't seem to be concerned at all.
Yep, my best friend is former US military and has lived all along the Middle East or just out west and currently lives in Ukraine doing contract work. He isn't the least bit worried.

He just took his Ukrainian wife and 1 year old kid back home to America last month, and they all went back to Ukraine together like normal. It's hard to fathom from my perspective, but he obviously knows what's going on more than I do and has zero concerns about potential safety issues.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
850 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:46 pm to
what is victory day like there? I heard it's really big deal in ukraine and russia. I bet there is some cool ww2 sites/museums. the eastern front was brutal in ww2 compare to west
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67555 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

We are closing in on our 7th year and it has gone fairly well but it doesn't always work. There are a fair share of divorces with the 90 day bride thing


She got any cute english speaking friends who might be looking to do the same thing? Asking for a friend, of course
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6143 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:54 pm to
I'm big on WWII history, though I prefer the Pacific campaign. I had quite a few veterans on my mail route, that I was friends with. Pearl Harbor, iwojima, etc. Fascinating stuff.

I went into an antique store in Kiev. They had Russian and German medals for sale.

The Grandmother was a nurse during the war. She later became a surgeon.

I will have to check out more stuff while I'm here.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1723 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 2:07 pm to
I get that nothing may come of the Russian invasion but the quality of life there sounds pretty tough. There are lots of Slavic people here in the states that made the jump and prosper from what I’ve heard. Might be worth the language lessons and tests to get settled over here.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 2:08 pm to
What food do they eat? Goulash?
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