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re: Haha Apple, FBI gets what it wants
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:05 pm to CatsGoneWild
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:05 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Shame on Apple for not giving the password
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:06 pm to CatsGoneWild
frick you.
Government doesn't need to know about everything. They really don't need to use tragedies as a scapegoat to push their agendas.
Government doesn't need to know about everything. They really don't need to use tragedies as a scapegoat to push their agendas.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:06 pm to CatsGoneWild
Makes me sad that people take what the media gives them and just assumes it as fact. OP a moron
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:08 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Shame on Apple for not giving the password when it comes to a national security issue
Shame on you for not seeing the larger ramifications of this.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:09 pm to soccerfüt
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Newsflash- Apple helped.
This DA
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:09 pm to CatsGoneWild
Might want to tie on a new hook. You just about wore that one out.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:09 pm to GRTiger
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They better come out quick and say they did. Otherwise, the FBI and an Israeli group now knows how to circumvent the security without apple assistance, which looks terrible for them.
Not really.
The weak point in security is the front door with the 4 digit pass.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:13 pm to CatsGoneWild
You obviously have no idea what's been going on involving this case with your OP.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:14 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Shame on Apple for not giving the password when it comes to a national security issue
Damn, you're all kinds of stupid.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:19 pm to CatsGoneWild
Lol at your understanding of technology
Posted on 3/28/16 at 6:21 pm to Volvagia
If they simply used brute force, they had to also circumvent the hard reset after a number of invalid attempts.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 7:34 pm to GRTiger
As I understand, there aren't as of now protections against duplicating the enclave chip/backup and retrying.
It's just time and resource consuming.
It's just time and resource consuming.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 3/28/16 at 7:36 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Glad that they found a way to hack into the Calif terrorists phone without Apple's help. Shame on Apple for not giving the password when it comes to a national security issue
You seriously don't have a clue what you are taking about do you.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 7:45 pm to Volvagia
And also fairly risky as far not destroying the data before being able to access it. I doubt we'll know how they did it, unfortunately (and fortunately), but if that was the route, they must have either found a safer way to duplicate the encrypted data on the chip or just accepted the risk.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 8:59 pm to GRTiger
Well that's another thing, which I don't know if it is semantics or if it is a big play in how they did it.
When the phone "self wipes" it actually doesn't do a thing to the data.
It only nukes the encryption key within the enclave. It's why it can lock down the phone so fast rather than going sector by sector (if that still applies to solid state).
Without that key, it is impossible to regenerate or decrypt the data, which essentially locks it down better than simply deleting, even if you later get the passcode.
But if you have multiple copies of the key........
When the phone "self wipes" it actually doesn't do a thing to the data.
It only nukes the encryption key within the enclave. It's why it can lock down the phone so fast rather than going sector by sector (if that still applies to solid state).
Without that key, it is impossible to regenerate or decrypt the data, which essentially locks it down better than simply deleting, even if you later get the passcode.
But if you have multiple copies of the key........
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:03 pm to IT_Dawg
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The process described by UCLA technology fellow Daniel Kahn Gillmor uses a technique called NAND mirroring to copy the portion of the phone's memory that counts the number of passcode attempts entered. By continually restoring the copy, the FBI could thereby circumvent the limit on the number of passcode guesses that can be made before the device is rendered permanently inaccessible.
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Another, more risky – not to mention laborious – method is an invasive microchip attack known as "de-capping". This involves removing and de-capsulating the phone's memory chip, carefully drilling down into it using a focused ion beam to expose the portion of the chip containing the target data (in this case, the iPhone's unique ID and passkey algorithm) and then probing it, micron by micron, to extract the information.
The latter could then be used in an off-device "brute-force" attack on the passcode that would be able to try all possible combinations without running up against the iPhone's guess limit.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:06 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Shame on Apple for not giving the password when it comes to a national security issue
What's scary is that you're serious when posting this.
You need to be educated, my friend.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:07 pm to bbeck
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What's scary is that you're serious when posting this.
You need to be educated, my friend.
Not even worth it
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:16 pm to MrSmith
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The process described by UCLA technology fellow Daniel Kahn Gillmor uses a technique called NAND mirroring to copy the portion of the phone's memory that counts the number of passcode attempts entered. By continually restoring the copy, the FBI could thereby circumvent the limit on the number of passcode guesses that can be made before the device is rendered permanently inaccessible.
Good info. If they could write a program that could try a code and restore the copy every second, they could try every possible combo in less than 12 days assuming a six digit pin.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:16 pm to bbeck
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Shame on Apple for not giving the password when it comes to a national security issue
After all of this horseshite, what if it was "123456".
Like Carl's first day at work on Slingblade. "It ain't got no gas in it. Mmm-hmmm."
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