re: Had a buddy die of an OD last night.

This is a weird arse post. You know everything down to the exact year of his entire career and all up in his shite. Did you used to shoot up with him?

I'm so sorry for your loss.

Opioid addiction is a plague on this country.

I heard recently that there were 64,000 deaths last year from opiate overdoses in the U.S.

Sorry for your loss OP.

Had a friend OD 5 or so years ago. He was a really good genuine guy. It took everyone by surprise.

There was a thread recently on the OT asking how many people know someone that has OD'd on heroin/opioids and surprisingly to me (or maybe not, because of the OT's nature to be awesome and condescending) barely anybody said yes. It was met with the usual "you should find better friends.".

This shite is happening closer to home than most think.

Sorry for your loss and everyone on her who have lost friends and relatives in this way. But, you know people have choices in life and we can all talk about addictions as diseases and illnesses but the bottom line is drug usage is a selfish action.

THERE IS NO DAMN EXCUSE TO USE DRUGS OR TO ABUSE ALCOHOL. NONE. THERE IS TOO MUCH INFORMATION AND THERE ARE TOO MANY PROGRAMS IN SCHOOLS SUCH AS DARE AND THROUGH PUBLIC SERVICES, COMMUNITY ACTIONS ETC. FOR ANYONE TO JUST STUMBLE INTO DRUG USAGE. AT SOME POINT THEY MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO TAKE A SUBSTANCE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS CAN HAVE DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES WITHOUT REGARD FOR HOW THOSE ACTIONS MIGHT ULTIMATELY AFFECT OTHERS.

THESE PEOPLE ARE CHEATING THE SYSTEM, TRYING TO GET OVER, SPITTING IN THE FACE OF THOSE WHO RESPECT THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE DANGERS DRUGS AND ALCOHOL PRESENT TO ONESELF AND OTHERS.

THIS IS NOT AN ABSTRACT OPINION, I HAVE LIVED WITH AND DEALT WITH ADDICTION BY THOSE CLOSE TO ME. THEY WILL MANIPULATE YOU AND SPIN YOU TO CONVINCE YOU THEY ARE THE VICTIMS OF SOME INSIDIOUS DEMON WHICH IS CUNNING, BAFFLING AND POWERFUL. WRONG. THEY MADE POOR DECISIONS AND REFUSE TO PLAY BY THE RULES THE REST OF US RESPECT.

Sorry for your loss man. I just lost a good friend last week to the same thing. He moved out of state about 4 years ago and struggled with opioids for a long time. Nobody knew that he started doing H. I spoke to his mom the other night and she told me that his 3yr old girl is having a hard time understanding what death means. It's frickin sad.

Your caps saved me from drugs but gave me aids

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Alcohol is a much bigger detriment to society, and it's legal. Considering that, i'm not sure that your argument has a leg to stand on.

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Actually my argument is quite strong and thank you for giving me the premise to present it.

Whether legal or not the abuse of alcohol is still a conscious decision and those poor decisions affect others as well as themselves. It may be borne by their spouse, children, parents or other loved ones in the form of economic, costs, broken homes, domestic abuse and disruption of the quality of lives of others.

Externally it may result in vehicle accidents, negative work performance, and altercations or disruptions to the quality of the lives of others which may lead to criminal prosecution.

there is a lot more of this happening to all walks of life than people realize. the heroin is laced with a cocktail of drugs that would kill an elephant.