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Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:40 am to AlxTgr
terrible news for all involved. Prayers to the families.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:42 am to AlxTgr
What ever happened to the lone survivor of the plane crash Carley was in? Did he every give details of the crash?
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:50 am to AlxTgr
Rock Palermo was a law school classmate and married the daughter of John Cox, at Keogh, Cox and Wilson in Baton Rouge. He was a good guy when i knew him 30 years ago and I never heard anything but good about him since. Sad news.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 1:35 pm to Lsupimp
quote:We were not that close. He was a lot closer to other guys in my section. I left the law center every chance I could-studied at apartment. I don't think he ever made one of our section 4 reunions.
Remember when Rock was in Edwin Edwards posse? He seemed like an adult among boys to me. We were waking up half drunk and chirping about politics and he was getting paged by EE and had a sense of purpose and direction. His wife Kim is a wonderful lady. Very sad.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 2:55 pm to Areddishfish
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Didn't know folks in Hackberry new what planes were
Screw you
Posted on 2/3/21 at 3:02 pm to wileyjones
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Those systems are nicknamed doctor killers
I've always called the small planes "Doctor Killers", not the emergency systems.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 3:13 pm to jcaz
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Airspeed was dropping down to 64 at last moment and over 4000 feet. Wonder if they stalled out.
64 is glide-speed IIRC on a 182
probably looking for a place to land
Posted on 2/3/21 at 3:20 pm to Adam4LSU
Plenty of places to land around there. May be wet, but it's flat and open.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 3:34 pm to Adam4LSU
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64 is glide-speed IIRC on a 182
65 with flaps, 70 without flaps according to the POH.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 3:53 pm to CatfishJohn
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I've always called the small planes "Doctor Killers", not the emergency systems.
The term has always been associated with the V-tail Beechcraft Bonaza, or "forked tail docter killer". The reputaion was earned by the belief whether true or not that doctors could afford a plane faster and more complex than was wise based on their flying experience, and this lead to a lot of accidents.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 3:54 pm to RedFoxx
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65 with flaps, 70 without flaps according to the POH.
Hmmm but even with an engine failure the avionics and transponder should continue working because battery won't die that quickly. Sudden failure of it makes me wonder.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 4:08 pm to jcaz
Pilot in my office who was friends with rock said he thinks plane may have lost a wing going down. Just his theory based on the information he has see so far. Says it would explain the no May Day.
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 2/3/21 at 4:39 pm to KemoSabe65
The investigators should figure that out quickly if they find debris far from the primary crash location. I assume that may be why the theory has emerged?
Posted on 2/3/21 at 4:44 pm to jcaz
Highly unusual to have a catastrophic structural failure like that. Not saying it couldn't happen though.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 4:47 pm to barry
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Reading about these crashes gives me anxiety because I start thinking about what they were experiencing in the final seconds.
This is the primary reason I am deeply uncomfortable with flying. I always envision how terrible it would be to plummet thousands of feet to your death, knowing all the while that you were doomed. Instances like the Air France crash remain lodged in my memory and imagination for all time. It seems so cruel that any human, much less families, had to experience that terror. I fly all the time, by the way. I just flew 20 hours half way across the world. I know it is statistically safe, but it is still unnerving to me.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 5:01 pm to Jim Rockford
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Highly unusual to have a catastrophic structural failure like that
Certainly not drawing any conclusions or suggesting any causes, but look at the recent AD that was recently released on Cessna high wing aircraft.
Link to AD 2020-18-01
"The FAA is issuing this AD to detect and address cracking of the wing strut
attach point. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in failure of the wing in operation,
which could result in loss of control of the airplane".
Posted on 2/3/21 at 5:31 pm to RedFoxx
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Cirrus aircraft are equipped with parachutes, but they don’t automatically deploy, so it is still up to pilot action to activate it.
Also if a pilot opens it at the wrong time it will do much more harm than good. All that on top of being very costly and complicated to get certified it just isn’t very practical.
It’s quite practical, though it’s not a panacea. I have a Cirrus (flew back from Houston today) and the parachute has saved hundreds of lives. It can’t be deployed too low. They say 600 feet, but it’s been successfully deployed below 300 feet, notably after takeoff in Midland Texas. It can’t be deployed when going too fast, either.
But if I were to die with my wife in the right seat, she has about a 99% chance of living - just press the blue “Level” button, pull back the throttle, deploy the parachute, then pull back the mixture. She rehearses it every time. Two Avoid Serious Injury in Midland Parking Lot
Posted on 2/3/21 at 5:37 pm to KemoSabe65
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Says it would explain the no May Day.
Post on the 1st page says there was a May Day.
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Yes, there were two on the plane. Rock was one and the other was a local stockbroker. Sad day as they were both great dudes. Testing out the plane. There was a mayday. Don’t want to give the name of the stockbroker until it’s officially released.
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