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re: Growing crops/own vegetables?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:23 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:23 pm to Korkstand
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But the premise is that the knowledge and skills required to grow food is being lost
Fact. If this weren't the case, "food deserts" wouldn't be a thing.
Farming is largely corporate today and is heavily subsidized by govt. Small truck farms used to be everywhere, not anymore.
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:But that is not true at all. This is an economic issue that has nothing to do with whether people could manage to grow crops if they had to or wanted to.
Fact. If this weren't the case, "food deserts" wouldn't be a thing.
quote:Again an economic issue. Personally I would prefer if critical industries like food production were less centralized, but economies of scale just don't play out like that.
Small truck farms used to be everywhere, not anymore.
However I think you'd be surprised at how many backyard gardens are out there. There are at least 3 on my block that I know of, and plenty of people in my extended family still grown their own shite, including the younger generation.
If you want to argue that we may one day face severe food shortages and things like that, sure, I absolutely think that's a possibility. I'm just saying it won't be because people don't know how to grow food.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:40 pm to Korkstand
Calm down a bit……
I would hope that any person on this board would think this country would be shite without farmers you are crazy…. Now growing food is not that hard….. as long as it’s just for family.
I would hope that any person on this board would think this country would be shite without farmers you are crazy…. Now growing food is not that hard….. as long as it’s just for family.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:43 pm to kciDAtaE
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Remember that? All I said was I have grown tomatoes and it was easy.
I'm not changing anything. Growing 3 tomato plants is not "growing tomatoes".
When I first started growing tomatoes, I grew one or 2 and it went great. Started upping the number of plants I grow, and it gets more involved. You start running into more pests, disease, fungus issues, etc.
This would be like me saying "I grew 4 rows of corn, so corn is easy" as if I could scale that up and not have any issues.
Hey, I wish more people would grow. I think it's great, because there is a large segment of our population that thinks food comes from a grocery store. But there's nothing easy about gardening. It takes some work and thought to do it right and do it well.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:54 pm to Cowboyfan89
Looking back probably 60-70% of homes had a garden in the back yard where I grew up. I would think if this trend were to come back it would take some demand off the commercial produce.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:04 pm to TigerMan79
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OP is 100% correct. Bunch of pansy doushbags with their grocery store comments
31 here. Can grow vegetables/fruit to feed my family of 4 year round.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:09 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:Scaling is not unique to growing food. As you scale up each square foot gets less of your time. You either have to spend proportionately more time on it, or you have to do it in a smarter way. The smarter way usually involves the help/skills of other people, and an economy is born.
When I first started growing tomatoes, I grew one or 2 and it went great. Started upping the number of plants I grow, and it gets more involved. You start running into more pests, disease, fungus issues, etc.
This would be like me saying "I grew 4 rows of corn, so corn is easy" as if I could scale that up and not have any issues.
You guys are acting like if shite really hit the fan, then someone who works in an office all day wouldn't be able to grow anything. If you can follow directions and put in some effort, anyone can start growing food in short order. Several posters in this thread have proved as much. Will there be stumbling blocks? Of fricking course! Would the hands-on work improve their knowledge and skills over the years and decades? Of fricking course!
But to act like knowledge is slipping away is nonsense. To act like growing food is so hard that a young person today couldn't watch youtube or pick up a book and start growing shite next week is nonsense.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:16 pm to LSU Coyote
rubber snake is rubber...
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:21 pm to sabes que
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Growing crops/own vegetables?
Rabbit shite is the secret. I enrich my soil with it & even make rabbit tea to water my plants.
You're welcome.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:21 pm to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Exactly. It’s all relative. Give me an equal amount of capital, labor force, time, land, etc. and I feel I have a better shot of being a successful farmer compared to opening a steel mill or building bridges or operating a medical clinic, etc.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:26 pm to Korkstand
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act. If this weren't the case, "food deserts" wouldn't be a thing.
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But that is not true at all.
Of course it's true. What do you think poor people used to do? shite, we were poor, probably half our stuff came from a farm that we picked.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:28 pm to boddagetta
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Rabbit shite is the secret
How large a space do you work?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:29 pm to Korkstand
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But to act like knowledge is slipping away is nonsense. To act like growing food is so hard that a young person today couldn't watch youtube or pick up a book and start growing shite next week is nonsense.
There's alot of things my generation and the younger ones couldn't do. Not because they couldn't find it on YouTube, but because they are lazy and don't want to work.
My youngest sister (early to mid 20s, no pics) couldn't grow a garden to save her life. Neither could half of my wife's siblings. Hell, my wife can only keep a cactus alive. I tell her all the time that the garden would die if I had to leave town for a week...she doesn't find that funny...
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:30 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Make a bed, put seeds in the ground, water them, weed them, profit.
Boom
Aren't you forgetting something?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Small personal garden. I'd say 20' x 40', give or take.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:31 pm to boddagetta
About like the one I used to have. Really miss it.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:33 pm to sabes que
I may not be a farmer, but what separates people like us from the leeches of society is that we have the motivation and capacity to learn how to farm when the need arises. The others will sit there and wither away while waiting for big daddy government to save them.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:42 pm to kciDAtaE
quote:Exactly. It's like all these people saying farming is hard have never tried to do anything harder.
Give me an equal amount of capital, labor force, time, land, etc. and I feel I have a better shot of being a successful farmer compared to opening a steel mill or building bridges or operating a medical clinic, etc.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:49 pm to Korkstand
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But to act like knowledge is slipping away is nonsense. To act like growing food is so hard that a young person today couldn't watch youtube or pick up a book and start growing shite next week is nonsense.
I'd say you're probably right for certain areas that still have a rural element to them, but our country is roughly 81% urban to rural, which is a complete flip from 60 years ago.
I can tell you from experience working with adults and kids in the urban sector, they have no clue how to grow and have a hard time maintaining a garden even when there's someone there to guide them along the way.
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