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re: Groomers groom? So what age were you when you chose to be straight?

Posted on 4/22/22 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 2:39 pm to
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I’m not a parent but I hope to be one day, God help any person who introduces this topic to my kids without my prior consent. As stated, I’m gay, but the LGBTQ bullshite is no part of my life and it won’t be for my kids either


You, sir, are a unicorn.



Now, tell us about the grooming that goes on in the gay community.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 2:39 pm to
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extremely rare
It's rare/occasional. I don't know about "extremely" rare.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1672 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 2:50 pm to
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Homosexuality is fundamentally an aberration which can occur without explicit incentivizing and grooming, but which is extremely rare without those explicit attempts to bring it about.


This is objectively false. Twins studies have proven genetics and factors that occur in the womb are the primary factor in determining someone’s sexual orientation. 66% concordance rate of homosexual orientation for monozygotic twins and 30% concordance rate for dizygotic twins. I.e the less genetic material a twin shares the less likely they are to both be gay.

Homosexual orientation in twins: a report on 61 pairs and three triplet sets
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9379 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 2:51 pm to
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The fact that there has been a 4000% increase in this nonsense just shows how it is 100% a fad and people are being pushed and groomed to not only tolerate it, but celebrate it and join in.


You and I have debated this topic a bit in the past and I'm coming around more towards your side of the argument but I'm still not sure this is 100% just a social fad. The girl in the article that XXTimmyXX shared obviously had some mental health issues that were not being addressed and her body dysmorphia manifested as identifying as trans. Maybe if she was a kid in the 80's she would ve been anorexic or bulemic. Are we witnessing a huge rise in general body dysmorphia in teens that is manifesting as transgenderism b'c unlike other forms of body dismorphia its being embraced culturally? Or is just another fad like you suggest taken to a ridiculous extreme?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 2:59 pm to
When I say it’s a 100% fad, I don’t mean that it doesn’t manifest sometimes as a legit mental issue. Just that the mental issue now is immediately and forcefully pushed towards some sort of TQN+ nonsense.


Let me put it bluntly. TRANS DOESN’T EXIST.

You have people that have mental issues, maybe stemming from abuse, some from wanting to fit in, and they have Potterized Depravity and made it fun and colorful.

Oh look, you can come and collect victim points like Pokémon, pick a made up whatever-sexual faction to pigeonhole yourself into and get a dopamine rush when you get validated for it…as long as you don’t identify as…normal. No, normal is eschewed and mocked and attacked in the jihad of depravity,

No wonder there’s been a 4000% increase. Teens are scared to just be normal, just like I looked for an identity outside the norm to feel like I fit in. I was just lucky it was metal heads and goths and not the rap crowd or I probably would have turned into some wannabe wanker.

The problem is, it’s always a phase. Let it pass, don’t feed it, treat the rejection of reality for what it is, a delusion.


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:09 pm to
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So believe that every homosexual was sexually abused as a kid?



huh? Your logic is flawed. I don't think anyone suggested that.

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That is just a ludicrous position.



well, you invented that position.

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That said, some of the nonsense from the right regarding homosexuality is worthy of contempt as well.



it's possible that you aren't keeping up.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27771 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:54 pm to
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Now, tell us about the grooming that goes on in the gay community.


I can’t because the thought of it turns my stomach. Kids need to be allowed to be kids. They aren’t pawns to be manipulated and used to further some fricked up agenda.

Before gay marriage, I truly believed there was no real gay agenda other than equal rights. I’ve never been more wrong in my life and I never foresaw what this has become.

I’m embarrassed and I’m disgusted by what’s happening and I want no part of it. Parents have every right to be pissed off and to fight back.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28502 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:57 pm to
I didn’t choose. The big guy (not pedo Joe) decided. Anyone, going against the grain is hell bound - but who am I to judge.

Back to your original question. Leave kids the frick alone you sick fricking leftists.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:58 pm to
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This is objectively false. Twins studies have proven genetics and factors that occur in the womb are the primary factor in determining someone’s sexual orientation. 66% concordance rate of homosexual orientation for monozygotic twins


From article:
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Thirty-eight pairs of monozygotic twins (34 male pairs and 4 female pairs) were found to have a concordance rate of 65.8% for homosexual orientation.


If homosexuality is primarily genetic plus factors that occur in womb shouldn’t the number for identical twins be higher if not pushing 100% (or fairly close outside of womb experience differences)?

Another study had more sampled and found much less concordance.
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The concordance rate for nonheterosexual sexual orientation in monozygotic twins found in this sample (31.6%) is similar to that found in the one previous general population twin study (4) but lower than the approximately 50% concordance rates found in the two previous studies that ascertained twin pairs through homophilic publications

https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp.157.11.1843?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%20%200pubmed#t1
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11058483/


And another found:
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“ Discordance for sexual orientation in the monozygotic pairs confirmed that genetic factors are insufficient explanation of the development of sexual orientation”

It also found:
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“ There was a high level of shared knowledge of sexual orientation between members of twin pairs, and a relatively high likelihood of sexual relations occurring with same sex co-twins at some time, particularly in monozygotic pairs.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1562871/
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134660 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:01 pm to
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ibldprplgld



I like you. You’re my kind of poof.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:04 pm to
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So, if you chose to be straight, what age could a "GROOMER" have gotten to you for you to be gay?


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Scatback1


Username checks out.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:07 pm to
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This is objectively false. Twins studies have proven genetics and factors that occur in the womb are the primary factor in determining someone’s sexual orientation. 66% concordance rate of homosexual orientation for monozygotic twins and 30% concordance rate for dizygotic twins. I.e the less genetic material a twin shares the less likely they are to both be gay.


Everything you stated here is widely accepted as false at this point. It is absolutely clear that genetics play little to no role in someone's decision to give in to his/her desire to engage in homosexual acts.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Scatback1
Denham
Member since Dec 2021
750 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:08 pm to
So far, no one that I have read has said... "Well, if the groomers got me before I was 3, I would be gay"


So do you think there are more gay people now because they can get married?

Like there's a dude out there, who would really like be your man.. but since you can't get married.. he will just be straight?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:11 pm to
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So far, no one that I have read has said... "Well, if the groomers got me before I was 3, I would be gay"


So do you think there are more gay people now because they can get married?

Like there's a dude out there, who would really like be your man.. but since you can't get married.. he will just be straight?


You're assuming that people are born gay. That simply isn't the case.

Yes, there are more gay people now that it is considered socially acceptable. There are also more "trans" people because being a freak is seen as a virtue these days. Being a straight white male is seen as a negative. People need to be some level of "oppressed" to get special privileges.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13992 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:31 pm to
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Straights can be groomers too. It’s the pedo part, not the homo part.


Does not compute. Screwing kids is not “straight” behavior.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134660 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:32 pm to
Bingo
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:39 pm to
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I can’t because the thought of it turns my stomach. Kids need to be allowed to be kids. They aren’t pawns to be manipulated and used to further some fricked up agenda.

Before gay marriage, I truly believed there was no real gay agenda other than equal rights. I’ve never been more wrong in my life and I never foresaw what this has become.

I’m embarrassed and I’m disgusted by what’s happening and I want no part of it. Parents have every right to be pissed off and to fight back.



I appreciate your candor. And, I think you are an example of what everyone assumes (and wants to assume) gay people are...just living their own life.

However, I think people need to understand the prevalence of grooming that occurs within that community. Unfortunately, way too many aren't like you. And, until a gay person explains it and acknowledges it, too many just assume that people who point it out are homophobic.

Posted by Scatback1
Denham
Member since Dec 2021
750 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:00 pm to
Yes, there are more gay people now that it is considered socially acceptable

That's f ing hilarious.. You honestly think that?

Like there were people who were straight, but now since it is OK...They would really like to switch teams... They hadn't really thought of it before, but now that I can marry that dude...
Posted by AcadieAnne
Space Force Cadet 1st Class
Member since May 2019
1834 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:58 pm to
You have lost the plot. No one gives a rat's arse what grown arse adults do behind closed doors. It's when kids get brought into it that it's a problem for most people.

I have a young family member who wanted to transition to a girl. He hit puberty and changed his mind. Kids these days aren't getting a chance to grow out of it because schools are first off, giving them the idea that they could be trans, and second off, helping them transition behind their parents' backs. This is unacceptable.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:55 pm to
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That's f ing hilarious.. You honestly think that?


No. I know that with 100% certainty.

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Like there were people who were straight, but now since it is OK...They would really like to switch teams... They hadn't really thought of it before, but now that I can marry that dude...


Everyone is straight. People choose to give in to sexual perversion.
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