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re: Grandfather, 73, faces domestic abuse charges after disciplining grandchildren

Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:03 pm to
I mean, if we're going to have any debate over laws or rules or morals or ethics, then the basic principle that violence is wrong is a pretty good, rudimentary foundation to start with, right? Violence = bad; not a very big leap.

If you can only teach someone with the threat of violence, then you're a shitty teacher.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:10 pm to
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If you can only teach someone with the threat of violence, then you're a shitty teacher.


Before we go any further, we need to clarify what is considered violence/spanking.

For starters, is a pop on the diaper of an 18-month old a problem?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I mean, if we're going to have any debate over laws or rules or morals or ethics, then the basic principle that violence is wrong is a pretty good, rudimentary foundation to start with, right? Violence = bad; not a very big leap. If you can only teach someone with the threat of violence, then you're a shitty teacher.


spanking =/= violence
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:29 pm to
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I'm pretty close to Scottsboro...not bragging.


Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:53 pm to
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It is never appropriate.


inappropriate =/=illegal

Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:55 pm to
I never said it was illegal. You okay?
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:55 pm to
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If you can only teach someone with the threat of violence, then you're a shitty teacher.


i can not only teach but do many other things with the threat of violence. (but I don't. well, maybe to my dogs.)
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:00 pm to
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Blue Velvet


Just out of curiosity, how many children do you have?
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:08 pm to
Enough to know that violence is wrong.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:09 pm to
When you get arrested in SCOTTSBORO ALABAMA for hitting your kin's kids, yeah, you probably went too far.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:12 pm to
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Enough to know that violence is wrong.


Good for you. Any parent should know violence towards their children is wrong. I abhor child abuse and give a lot of my time and effort volunteering with kids who have had to suffer through the nightmare of it. Breaks my heart and makes my blood boil at what adults can do to innocent kids.


But you didn't answer my question about how many kids you have.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:18 pm to
You don't need a child to know that it takes a mentally flawed individual to believe it's okay to rely on physical violence to teach said child a lesson.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:29 pm to
It's none of your business. Frankly, I don't feel comfortable telling a sexually-repressed, big gov-loving, pseudo-biker, valor-stealing, cuckold/pansy about my children. You are the guy who bragged about pulling down your daughter's underwear to spank her and who makes up stories about mudchecking people and who passed your wife around at your biker "gang"s initiation, right?

Anyway, back on topic... spanking, like all violence, is immoral.
Posted by Aux Arc
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:30 pm to
Getting a kid's attention with a harmless spank or slap is very effective and is not in any way abusive.

The people I know who never spanked their kids generally have shite-head kids.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:36 pm to
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Getting a kid's attention
I've always loved this one. "I'm just getting their attention. Sure, if that's what I actually wanted to do, then I could have whistled or snapped or raised my voice, but I just had to strike them to get their attention."
Posted by stat19
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:37 pm to
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My grandmother's go to was the make us kneel on uncooked rice on a hardwood floor.


Old Russian form.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:40 pm to
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well my damn! i though mine was sadistic for making us procure the switch with which she'd flagellate us.


This. Best not pick a wimpy one at that.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:41 pm to
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It's none of your business. Frankly, I don't feel comfortable telling a sexually-repressed, big gov-loving, pseudo-biker, valor-stealing, cuckold/pansy about my children. You are the guy who bragged about pulling down your daughter's underwear to spank her and who makes up stories about mudchecking people and who passed your wife around at your biker "gang"s initiation, right?


Holy hell. You've got a lot of hostility issues. Just how much bullshite lies and distortions can you pack into one post? I hope you don't take those hostility issues of yours out on your kids.

And as for my daughter, that was when she was in diapers dumbass. She's 7 now and I can't remember the last time she got a spanking.

As for the rest of your bullshite, takes a real lowlife worthless piece of dogshit to make that many insulting, baseless accusations on a message board. Take your made up bullshite lies and go frick yourself.

This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:42 pm to
Wow. You haven't melted this hard since Paige and the lunch crew made your arse quit when they found your photo online.
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