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re: GQ article about the Will Smith Shooting

Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:42 am to
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:42 am to
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1 - who gets swung at 3 times by a former pro defensive end, and calmly says "Please don't do that."


Well smith was so plastered he probably whiffed on every punch. Surprised he was even able to walk straight being 3x the legal limit.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:19 pm to
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GQ article about the Will Smith Shooting



RIP Will Smith

I thought this was about getting jiggy with it Will Smith prior to clicking link.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:55 pm to
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Smith should have never hit him and ran. Then run a red light. all while intoxicated


No doubt. I agree. But once you pull a gun out, we know bad things usually come next - and they did.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:58 pm to
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Smith should have never hit him and ran. Then run a red light.
maybe cardell should stop driving like a jackass and rear view mirror watching the mercedes behind him looking to slam brakes on people for a check.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:00 pm to
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. Cardell was a thug wanna be piece of shite.


I seem to remember reading that Tyrann Mathieu knew him growing up and said the same thing.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:00 pm to
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Chad504boy


Please don't turn this thread to shite.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:02 pm to
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I seem to remember reading that Tyrann Mathieu knew him growing up and said the same thing.


He didn't say he was a tPOS. Just said he was a coward.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:03 pm to
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Please don't turn this thread to shite.


This thread is based on a shite biased non factual article.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:06 pm to
Stop
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:10 pm to
i'm good. i guess this article just filled your aching thirst to defend a fricking murderer. have fun with that.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:12 pm to
I'm sorry you're so triggered. It will be ok.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:13 pm to
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i'm good. i guess this article just filled your aching thirst to defend a fricking murderer. have fun with that.

I can see you are quenching your thirsts of defending a woman beating drunk driving hit and running man
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179855 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:22 pm to
nice to see that the article says hayes stepped out of his vehicle after HE crashed his car into the mercedes holding his .45 already at his side... this was way before mr will smith acted like a meanie head. Hayes steps out, brandishes his .45 first and then shoots someone dead 8 times. Sorry baw, you going to fricking jail.

quote:

Cardell opened the driver's door, stepped onto the pavement. He had his .45 in his right hand, held at his side, pointed at the ground. In New Orleans, that is a perfectly legal thing to do.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:26 pm to
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You're talking about Smith or Hayes?


Smith never had his gun. If pulling a gun isn't considered threatening, why would Hayes fear for his life when Smith never even had one at the time?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179855 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:35 pm to
per article, hayes runs down a hit and run guy cause he mad about his insurants hikes and then happens to crash into vehicle smashing rear window then legally steps out of vehicle with a .45 but does it a i'm a white guy who can protect myself kind of way all the while mr smith is taking swings and misses while hayes had a .45 etc. article was a fricking agenda driven pathetic piece woe is the life of this good ole black kid literature.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66452 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:55 pm to
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No matter what the article says, Hayes should've never gotten out of his vehicle with a gun in hand (especially considering the fact that he hit Smith from behind). Both parties are responsible for what happened, but Hayes getting out of his car with a gun in his hand sent the whole thing to another level.


i still say if will smith wouldn't have hit and ran, nothing happens at all.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66452 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:56 pm to
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Chad504boy


let it go. that signed jersey wasnt worth shite before the shooting
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41865 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 3:40 pm to
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let it go. that signed jersey wasnt worth shite before the shooting



It's really weird. At the beginning, most people (reasonably given the minimal facts available) assumed that it was a random act of violence or that some dude killed Smith simply because he felt disrespected or whatever.


Then as the days passed it became clear that the narrative that formed immediately after the incident was false and most agreed that it was false and that more facts would be needed to truly determine fault.


For some unknown reason a couple of holdouts, chad being the most vocal, have doubled down on the initial narrative.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
Hayes shot Smith in the back 7 times, and shot Smith's wife twice. No other shots fired, and conflicting accounts of another weapon. He's going to jail for a long long time.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26961 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:04 pm to
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Cardell opened the driver's door, stepped onto the pavement. He had his .45 in his right hand, held at his side, pointed at the ground. In New Orleans, that is a perfectly legal thing to do.


The writer pretends that this was a logical move. You just chased down and hit a car that apparently hit you first and you get out of the car with a gun in New Orleans (a place where people kill people for looking at them wrong)? I watched the original video many times and I couldn't really tell if the cars hit each other, but I'll assume they did since Hayes went after him. Smith was driving like a jackazz. But anyone that jumps out of a car with a gun in any kind of possible hostile situation has really escalated an issue into something life threatening. And of course, he took a life.

Yeah, Smith may have escalated the situation in the first place, but it didn't become life-threatening until Hayes stepped out with his gun.
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