re: Going off the financial grid - hypothetical scenario

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I’m not sure they take krugerrands at Winn Dixie

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Louisiana will see what FL did, then pass new taxes for studies, to study until even more taxes are needed, to study some more.

Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill Tuesday that starts the process of making gold and silver legal tender in the state.

Or, you could just stay in Hammond and be a studious, taxpaying mofo.

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$2mil would be nothing more than some gold coins and prepaid visas.

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VISA cards can be “stopped payment” on.

Get 500 ea. Certified MS65 $20 St Gaudens Gold Coins.

They’re each presently valued at ~$4k, well under the single transaction reporting level.

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Very unique rare pieces that can only be verified by art dealers across the world

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$2MM isn’t going to buy a whole lot of “rare unique art”

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Otherwise as another poster stated a friend you trust is the only sure fire way and hold cash.

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If the Feds/other were looking for you and you’re a high profile target, there is a 100% chance the Feds would look into the friends as well to see who is helping him.

Plus, you’d be dependent on that friend not to rat you out.

I would surmise you would need enough degrees of separation to avoid the dragnet.

Who are you hiding from? That will determine your course of action.

Hiding from the government is pretty complicated and if you are asking the OT for help then you will be found within 24 hours of them deciding they want to find you.

Hiding from a greedy/psychotic ex is a bit more feasible if you educate yourself and are extremely disciplined.

If this is a serious thread and not just a shower thought entertainment thread then I would start with reading Michael Bazzell’s book Extreme Privacy: What it Takes to Disappear

LINK

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Let’s say you have $2,000,000 in accounts and you decide you want to live off of the financial grid, not to be found, but still have access to your funds. What do you do? You can’t just transfer your funds to a bank, walk in, withdraw $2,000,000 in cash, and leave with a suitcase full of money.

Is the only option crypto? I feel like this would still be traceable.

What other options are there?

This is a hypothetical scenario.

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Historically jewelry. It is highly possible to fly out of the US with $2 million worth of jewelry hanging on your body, not advisable obviously but it could be done with some planning and a back story. Try to sneak $10K out in cash and you are liable to be $10K lighter by the time you clear security. If you are wanted by someone who is serious about locating you though you are fricked. The problem with $2 million worth of jewelry is obvious, you are going to have to accept pennies on the dollar for it if you need the cash quickly. There is a reason though that so many holocaust stories involve jewelry up someone's arse....it has been done since time out of mind.

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You need cash or other fungible physical assets. You need to own no real estate or vehicles, have no bank accounts, hold no “real” jobs (jobs that report income or payroll to the IRS), hold no insurance policies, etc.

To be off the grid, you must be both self-reliant AND judgment proof (i.e. a court cannot find you to serve you or seize assets). If you pay property taxes, income taxes, or have a car, they can easily find you. If you own real estate or have a bank account, they can seize it.

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If someone is serious about locating you you are fricked. Outside of very isolated locations simply walking down the street in 2025 in most of the developed world means you are on camera and facial recognition is a very real thing. If no one is serious about locating you you can, with some caution, last a long time, but if the ex is serious and has the resources you ain't hiding long....and if it is a state agency your hiding time is far less. Crossing ANY national border is going to be problematic even if no one is seriously looking for you.

that’s why you get cashiers checks and spread out the withdrawals. Have we learned nothing from Andy Dufresne?

At times from about 1997-2007 I would have a couple of million dollars in banks for a few days at a time, not cash of course. I was fascinated with the idea of running off with that money LOL. It was a hobby, I was never serious about it, but it was intriguing I read everything I could find on the subject and I concluded it was pretty possible to do IF no one was serious about locating you...that would not have been the case for me as my employees, vendors and the IRS would have certainly became very obsessed with my where abouts in a short period of time. If someone is serious about locating you it is not possible for anyone to survive long. Not today. Way to many agencies around the world and borders to cross. Its an intriguing idea though...

My wife and talked about me falling off a cruise ship LOL. Obviously surving the fall would be problematic but there are cameras everywhere on a cruise ship...it does happen but most of the time they know pretty quick. We also talked about me going offshore, getting off my boat and letting it idle away while I was headed to the Bahamas in another boat. That would work if no one was looking for you but if they were serious about locating you it would be a matter of days before you were arrested.

As will a boatload of transactions just under $10k.