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re: Georgia shooter was given an AR - 15 for Christmas from his father!
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:44 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:44 pm to Auburn1968
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Dad is not too bright.
For real. Not an easy situation for a dad to be in, but as much as it would suck, there would be no guns in the house if my kid had previously pulled something like that. You know your kid is a liability at this point. This dude took the opposite route.
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:44 pm to dnm3305
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I owned 3 firearms by the time I was 14. They actually weren’t kept in a safe either. I didn’t shoot up a school.
I was only ever allowed to touch my gun in the presence of my Father.
Mine were in my room on a gun rack on the wall. I'd grab one after school or during the summer and head off into the woods with a buddy. We did that younger than 14 really.
I will also say that an AR-15 isn't generally used for hunting with some exceptions. I think the first time I had my own gun besides a bb gun or pellet gun was probably at like 9-10 years old.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:45 pm to Chad504boy
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You’re saying completely dumb shite. That’s what.
Says the weirdo ranting about trans kids and abortion in a thread where adults are discussing the appropriateness of a 14 year old owning a gun in the general sense.
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Like this 14 yr old was simply missing the learning of appropriateness of shooting people with a rifle.
Your lack of comprehension of contextual clues as an adult is appalling.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:45 pm to SUB
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I said access “at will”. That means access all the time.
Answer the question. At will, part time no time. Do you allow below 18 year olds access at any time to your children that you trust?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:47 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Says the weirdo ranting about trans kids and abortion in a thread where adults are discussing the appropriateness of a 14 year old owning a gun in the general sense.
You couldn’t see the forest from the trees. But you are a super duper parent teaching kids about the appropriateness of not shooting people with rifles.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:49 pm to 3deadtrolls
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For real. Not an easy situation for a dad to be in, but as much as it would suck, there would be no guns in the house if my kid had previously pulled something like that. You know your kid is a liability at this point. This dude took the opposite route.
It’s because there is a fair share of parents in this country who either can’t grasp their kid doing something this horrible or they believe it’s just the system coming after their kid and they’re a victim.
Given what some of the adults associated with the kid have said on social media and their own threats they’ve made, my guess it’s full on dysfunction enabling the kid.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:51 pm to Chad504boy
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You couldn’t see the forest from the trees. But you are a super duper parent teaching kids about the appropriateness of not shooting people with rifles.
You’re sky screaming about a conversation you can’t even keep up with.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:51 pm to Chad504boy
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Answer the question.
It’s a loaded question where all the variables are not known. If the risks of allowing a child to have access to a gun are lower than the risk of not letting him have access, then sure, why not? But those situations are not common.
Still, I don’t understand how that is relevant as it was not the argument I was making.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
No. I am. You’re making very general retarded fricking statements. I’m not generalizing what is appropriate or not appropriate for different kids, teenagers or young adults. You are.
You allow your 16 yr old to drive, you’re also accepting the legal responsibility of their actions too. Doesn’t mean the only acceptable parenting move is to lock the car up and don’t ever give them the keys.
You allow your 16 yr old to drive, you’re also accepting the legal responsibility of their actions too. Doesn’t mean the only acceptable parenting move is to lock the car up and don’t ever give them the keys.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:56 pm to Spawn
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Dad just got arrested.
Good. He is an accessory.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:56 pm to Chad504boy
Alot of Big Gov. people in this thread. Nothing the dad did was illegal. I had multiple firearms at 14. You could do the same damage with a 10-22 or a 20 gauge. You going to advocate for the arrest of parents whose 16 yr old kid had a wreck and killed somebody? Where is all this vitriol when inner city youths shoot each other and innocents? They get a pass? Inner cities get sent to juvie and say im sorry. The mom says they were good kids about to go to college. Theyre not arrested. Why is this guy arrested? Dont tell me the inner city mom hadnt seen preclusions and insights about their childs behavior. She knew.
Wheres all this hate when illegals kill innocents? Why arent all you calling for the politicians to be put in jail for allowing these criminals in our country? You all need mirrors. Your walking a line that you will not be able to come back from.
Wheres all this hate when illegals kill innocents? Why arent all you calling for the politicians to be put in jail for allowing these criminals in our country? You all need mirrors. Your walking a line that you will not be able to come back from.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:58 pm to AtticusOSullivan
Yep. Some posters are too stupid to realize the slippery holier than thou slopes they are posting on.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:00 pm to SUB
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where all the variables are not known
Variables don’t matter.
If you are deeming variables matter then welcome to my side of the fence buddy.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:01 pm to PJinAtl
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, the online posts and interview with local sheriff's office occurred in May 2023 (the kid was 13 and finishing 7th grade!!!). 8th grade year apparently went by without any issues (except getting the gun for Christmas).
Thanks for the timeline clarification.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:05 pm to Nolalakeview
Children shouldn't have guns. I say this as a man who has long thought Antonin Scalia was too far left on the 2A. There's nothing in the Constitution that gives rights to children, and I don't care about your heartwarming hunting-with-Peepaw story. Children shouldn't hold a firearm any more than they should hold a bottle of liquor or a spoon full of cocaine, and the sooner we admit it the better.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:05 pm to AtticusOSullivan
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Wheres all this hate when illegals kill innocents? Why arent all you calling for the politicians to be put in jail for allowing these criminals in our country? You all need mirrors.
Digesting this statement. There’s so much honest truth in this logic. It’s not even an outlandish tangent. They should be held directly responsible too. It’s a KNOWN domino effect they are choosing to make for political success and purposes
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:06 pm to Porpus
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Children shouldn't have guns. I say this as a man who has long thought Antonin Scalia was too far left on the 2A. There's nothing in the Constitution that gives rights to children, and I don't care about your heartwarming hunting-with-Peepaw story. Children shouldn't hold a firearm any more than they should hold a bottle of liquor or a spoon full of cocaine, and the sooner we admit it the better.
Jesus. Awful opinion. Truly awful.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:08 pm to TDsngumbo
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no father has any business giving his child a fricking AR-15
I disagree. Each of my children have an Ar-15, even my daughters. They shoot them often enough to be very proficient.
Now, none of my children are bat shite insane - well except for the one whose in the Army he may be a little.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:09 pm to Chad504boy
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Variables don’t matter.
If you are a risk averse person, then they absolutely do.
If you don’t care about weighing risks of one action vs another in different situations, then what are we even arguing about?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:09 pm to AtticusOSullivan
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You going to advocate for the arrest of parents whose 16 yr old kid had a wreck and killed somebody
if the parents knew the minor child was a reckless driver or drove intoxicated all the time and the accident was caused by reckless driving or intoxication - then yes, i would advocate for their arrest if the parents were the owners of the vehicle and allowed the child to continue driving their owned vehicle despite knowing their child posed a serious risk to everyone else on the roads
in this case, the dad had knowledge of the child’s prior threats, told the Law Enforcement he would not have access to the fathers guns, but then the father later gave the son direct access to a gun by buying the son his own. The father is clearly in the wrong and should be held criminally and civilly liable in this case.
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