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re: Georgia covid getting hot

Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:17 pm to
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I know we don't. Georgia has conducted tests, total, for less than 2% of the population


That’s because no one needs a test. If people aren’t coming in with fever and cough who are we going to test? It’s not flu season anymore. So what, Just random tests?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465858 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:18 pm to
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I know a self professed 'specimen of perfect humanity' that was infected, and spent two weeks in hospital.

He's a shell of himself, emaciated, and gets winded going to the mailbox and back.

NOBODY is saying i'ts imposible

just unlikely

normal, healthy people die from the flu
Posted by TidenUP
Coden, AL
Member since Apr 2011
14665 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:21 pm to
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Meaning if Democrats were in control everything would be ok.


Considering who you're talking to, you are more correct than you know. There isn't a lefty policy he/she doesn't praise and there's no conservative position he/she will embrace. He/she makes his/her living relying on federal money for "studies".
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51400 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:23 pm to
My business tends to the public, and is full of upper middle class and lower, middle upper class, and a few upper upper class know it all Beckies.

You, as a seasoned and sage barrister know what is latently possible.

This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 9:25 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:24 pm to
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to my knowledge, no country or NGO has spoken of a comprehensive plan


Germany? South Korea?

Not to say their plans would work for us - we're far past that point - but they do have them.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:25 pm to
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That’s because no one needs a test


That's certainly one Swedish way of looking at it.

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If people aren’t coming in with fever and cough who are we going to test?


A random sample of the population, and everyone the positives can remember having come into contact with for 7 days before symptom onset.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:25 pm to
The OP is simply wrong. Georgia’s real time infectious rate is below one. That means the spread of COVID will stop.

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465858 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:26 pm to
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Germany? South Korea?

Not to say their plans would work for us - we're far past that point - but they do have them.

no they had plans on early containment, which SK did well (and is a major outlier)

i'm talking about the comprehensive plan for dealing with the totality of COVID-19
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31774 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:27 pm to
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Considering who you're talking to, you are more correct than you know. There isn't a lefty policy he/she doesn't praise and there's no conservative position he/she will embrace. He/she makes his/her living relying on federal money for "studies".


I admit my right lean but I’m really interested in what would have been done differently. Trump was called a racist for closing down China travel. Then criticized for not doing it earlier. Then when Europe flared up, he shut down travel from there. He was called racist again. Then Cuomo complains that he should have focused on Europe and not China.

What the hell would anybody else in office have done differently?

Trump is a moron. He downplayed it at the beginning more than he should have. He’s needlessly combative with the media. No democrat would have done anything different other than declare martial law.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 9:28 pm
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10946 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:27 pm to
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A random sample of the population, and everyone the positives can remember having come into contact with for 7 days before symptom onset.


Only a couple billion tests then we're good?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10355 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:27 pm to
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By what definition?




“Oh shite, I don’t have a comeback. Time time start trying to define what ‘is’ is.”

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Did they run serology tests on every passenger?


They tested every passenger, yes.

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Aside from that, even the cruise ships practiced quarantines / social distancing once it was apparent this was a problem


The reason masks are so popular now have nothing to do with social distancing. The same air containing the virus particles from infected people was recycled and pumped around those ships constantly. And the whole living on surfaces for x amount of days nonsense means thousands of people touching touching the same door handles, hand rails, elevator buttons, gym equipment, etc in those small spaces would have led to widespread transmission well before an issue was known given the incubation period.

So either covid 19 is nowhere near as contagious as the “experts” claim or the idea that no one has any natural immunity is bullshite. Pick one.

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And yet it kills


And yet this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it seems at least 50% of those infected are asymptomatic, further evidencing your claim that of no natural immunity is bullshite.

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somewhere between 0.5-4% of those infected,


Shocking, you’re still touting a 4% mortality rate.

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depending on health system strain.


Didn’t you claim to be some kind of infectious disease expert earlier in this thread?

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Not great, Bob.


Not worth ruining tens of millions of lives to spread out the time period of .5% of people dying, moron.

I noticed you didn’t want to talk about Stockholm or Los Angeles. Why’s that? And where’s your data on hospitals being overrun?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465858 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:29 pm to
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What the hell would anybody else in office have done differently?

overruled the CDC and FDA, predicting the future failure of the CDC in delivering tests that worked
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10355 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:30 pm to
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we've seen otherwise healthy individuals, no known risk factors, die from this in our ICUs. We know a lot of the risk factors, but we haven't yet nailed down a definitive way to know who's going to be definitely impacted and who's going to walk away free and clear.


And there are lots of stories out there of people in their 80s and 90s making full recoveries. So we don’t need to worry about them anymore.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31774 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:30 pm to
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overruled the CDC and FDA, predicting the future failure of the CDC in delivering tests that worked



Posted by TidenUP
Coden, AL
Member since Apr 2011
14665 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:38 pm to
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He downplayed it at the beginning more than he should have


You mean when the WHO(the be all, end all voice that the left touts as experts) were saying there was little concern of human to human transfer? That beginning?
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
6007 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:42 pm to
Who gives a frick! God damn this country is filled with pussies and retards.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31774 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:00 pm to
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You mean when the WHO(the be all, end all voice that the left touts as experts) were saying there was little concern of human to human transfer? That beginning?



No just the we’ll only have a few cases and beat it.

He wasn’t lying. He was just wrong.

I meant to say, “hey I don’t worship Trump. He’s made mistakes. The only thing a Democrat would have done differently is more draconian sanctions.”
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19470 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:09 pm to
Every state should stay shut down til the end of August
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10946 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:11 pm to
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Every state should stay shut down til the end of August


We should just cancel 2020 and try again next year
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12638 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:27 pm to
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Buy time for proper testing/tracing infrastructure, and for treatments currently undergoing trials to pass safety/efficacy checks and come into practice (if they work).

Let’s say we do everything you’re suggesting. How, exactly, do you propose we mitigate the massive drop in economic output? What happens when millions lose their health insurance and have no way to pay for individual plans? What happens when the companies supplying hospitals with medicines, equipment, PPE, etc. shut down operations because the only products they are selling are the ones that are used in the COVID units? What happens when people start losing their homes because they can’t pay their mortgage? Or better yet, what happens when the finance industry goes under?

This is the problem with healthcare types trying to force some “best case” scenario on people - healthcare types, generally speaking, live in a bubble and have a horrible sense for how the rest of the national economy works. Significant economic damage has already been done, the effects of which may not be fully understood until Q3 or later.

So let’s say we keep being ultra conservative with everything. Congrats, you minimized COVID deaths. Never mind the fact that the country goes into the worst depression in its 250 year history, millions will die early due to the effects of poverty, and a hundred million will see significant quality of life reductions.

It’s cutting off the nose to spite the face.
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