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Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:04 pm to fallguy_1978
BamaAtl works in healthcare. Not as an actual provider but some type of administrator. Huge proponent of nationalized healthcare and ACA
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:12 pm to AlonsoWDC
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Damn, I had no idea.
Never would have guessed that from his posts.
I'd think he knows more about it than an accountant, plant baw or IT worker
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:18 pm to BamaAtl
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Are you of the serious belief that we weren't immunologically naive to SARS-Cov-2 when the outbreak started? What do you base that on?
You mean besides the fact that in controlled environments like cruise ships, naval vessels, Iceland, etc. this supposedly highly contagious disease is infecting less than 50% of people? And of those that are infected, a very substantial portion are not affected at all by the disease? Both of those definitely prove the “no immunity” idea to be complete nonsense.
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Not if, when. As shown by NYC, Italy, Seattle, etc.
Seoul? Stockholm? Los Angeles? Houston, etc.
Go ahead and give the data showing those places were overrun. Don’t forget to include the navy hospital ship beds in your NYC numbers.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:19 pm to BamaAtl
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Scrolled back through this thread, don't see you asking me a question. What is it, and I'll answer it?
The question is literally in the post that you were responding to.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:43 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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But we should shut the economy down on an if
You have to understand where BamaATL coming from. He/she believes all people, private enterprise, etc. are subordinate to the government. Liberty and freedom always takes a back seat to government authority and power.
BamaATL doesn't give a frick about your financial problems. BamaATl only cares about BamaATl, and right now that means doing everything necessary to prolong this lockdown as long as possible to personally profit from it by increased government funding.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:20 pm to The Boat
I never said that
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:25 pm to BamaAtl
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The entire premise of your moronic take is based on your own “if” of the hospitals being overrun.
Not if, when. As shown by NYC, Italy, Seattle, etc.
If all hospitals in an area get overwhelmed it would be because we limited exposure of healthy too long and don't have enough people with anti-bodies spread throughout country. Vaccine was always off past predicted downturns. Aggressive testing and isolation can't do it by itself for all of us unless we do want to continue this way into 2021. Part of it was always more getting it and taking away one additional person each time who would get it within a group exposed to virus and then same for area groups usually stay in. Flattening curve was supposed to stop overwhelming resources because when efforts to flatten curve started we were already 6 figures with infections that were just waiting on confirmation and also to allow for building up other resources like testing and knowledge on treatment including things like oxygen earlier along with pronation and be less quick using ventilators. Infections still needed to happen at a certain rate and can't by staying home for 2 to 3 months into late spring and early summer. As China never shared original strains hitting there in December and January I am only reasonably convinced that previous infections will have true immunity for 6 to 9 months, but that would still be enough time to get it under control with time to prepare to deal with whatever mutation has happened by November-January on top of any limited help up to full immunity with future mutations a previous infection may offer. If too many punt on decision for another month to start beginning to interact this will see too high numbers in fall mixing with flu season.
If Trump has made mistakes in this since shutdowns and ramp up started they were not sticking to his Easter talk of when lessening of restrictions should actually begin and signing a bill that paid more in unemployment through December 31st than people were earning beforehand on top of other help being offered and the stimulus payment. For some the new normal is a minimum wage of $15 an hour or more not working. It's UBI through the back door.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 8:09 am
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:25 pm to SlidellCajun
I remember an early morning thread about reopening in Georgia, with an idiot know it all bean counter.
This was exactly my concern. That everything would return to clampdown almost ipso facto.
This was exactly my concern. That everything would return to clampdown almost ipso facto.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:28 pm to Dandy Lion
BamaAtl tarding it up. Been awhile since I’ve seen her
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:30 pm to BamaAtl
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Define 'imminent' in a disease with a 2-4 week lag time between infection and hospitalization/death, and that has a geometric growth pattern because the population has no existing immunity.
Well we have proven that we can bend a curve very significantly if necessary in cities that don’t have very high population density (NYC)
That will only be easier with some amount of immunity in the population. So what exactly are we doing wrong? If the cases explode and their is a hospital shortage then we can decide what to do. But that’s not a given at this point.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:55 pm to SlidellCajun
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:49 pm to Pedro
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Are you saying that social distancing is going to limit total cases in the long term and knock out the virus?
Not without sustaining it through to widespread distribution of a vaccine, which isn't feasible. Social distancing was to buy us time to ramp up testing, contact tracing, and hospital capacity. We've only done the last of those.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:51 pm to BamaAtl
Just curious
Which part of keeping people that are at highest risk at home and lettering everybody else get back to it is a bad thing?
You know.... personal responsibility
Which part of keeping people that are at highest risk at home and lettering everybody else get back to it is a bad thing?
You know.... personal responsibility
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:52 pm to Dandy Lion
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This was exactly my concern. That everything would return to clampdown almost ipso facto.
And you're still the idiot. Sue anyone yet? Get out from the house and onto the lake yet? Whatever you do, be sure to ride around in the car with your mask on.
Ain't closing shite. Those numbers were fake. Most of the death numbers were from other causes like heart disease which verified kills more than the Covid, except during this time. Crawl back under your bed and wait for tank Abrams to come and save you.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:53 pm to Open Your Eyes
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You mean besides the fact that in controlled environments like cruise ships, naval vessels, Iceland, etc. this supposedly highly contagious disease is infecting less than 50% of people?
By what definition? Did they run serology tests on every passenger? Aside from that, even the cruise ships practiced quarantines / social distancing once it was apparent this was a problem - we wouldn't expect 100% infection over just a few weeks.
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And of those that are infected, a very substantial portion are not affected at all by the disease?
And yet it kills somewhere between 0.5-4% of those infected, depending on health system strain. Not great, Bob.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:53 pm to BamaAtl
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Social distancing was to buy us time to ramp up testing, contact tracing, and hospital capacity. We've only done the last of those.
well we have ramped up testing since social distancing started, but ignoring that, what's the overall plan?
testing and contract tracing is only something to help with actue areas who are facing critical care capacity issues. it's not an overall policy
especially since you are effectively agreeing that the same # of cases will ultimately occur over time. so what is the ultimate plan here?
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:53 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Open Your Eyes
Yeah, that's not a question. He's welcome to ask one, though!
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:54 pm to BamaAtl
Quit moving the goalposts you tranny
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:01 pm to SlidellCajun
It's not about opening, damnit, it's about the crazies. The legal exposure is tremendous.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 9:04 pm
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