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Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:20 pm to AU4real35
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These pile of junks gm are putting out are on dodge neons level.
I don’t believe you!
They have the most JD Power awards for initial satisfaction amongst all car manufacturers.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:27 pm to jbgleason
Looking at the data, the sales figures do show an increase lately in the US full size suv market. However, even with this increase, the numbers are a fraction of the sales in the early and mid 2000s. We're a long way away from what it was before the 2008 financial crisis.
The suburban is performing well, but the sequoia, yukon xl and land cruiser are the 3 lowest selling full size suvs in America.
That's for your standard makes. Obviously 100k+ luxury suvs sell in much smaller numbers.
The suburban is performing well, but the sequoia, yukon xl and land cruiser are the 3 lowest selling full size suvs in America.
That's for your standard makes. Obviously 100k+ luxury suvs sell in much smaller numbers.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Truck sales are declining bigly.
The demand for SUVs is actually demand for crossovers.
Big gas guzzling suburbans, expeditions and land cruisers are not in demand.
The exact opposite of what this guy said is reality.
Truck sales are in fact increasing, not declining, and sure as hell not declining bigly.
Also, only someone who knows nothing about the auto industry thinks it's got anything to do with unions. It's simply what the market is telling them as far as what's selling and what the trends are.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:29 pm to skinny domino
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Camry and Accords wearing that arse out.
They're having problems moving the Accord, and the Camry's sales are flat.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:30 pm to member12
Government Motors
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:31 pm to soccerfüt
Looking at this logo...
Since when did we start allowing children to work in factories again?
Are child labor laws enforced anymore?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:32 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Big gas guzzling suburbans, expeditions and land cruisers are not in demand.
The frick ever...
A. Land Cruisier is the gas guzzler in that list 13/18 is terrible.. on vacation this summer my Suburban was getting nearly 24mpg.. Not too shabby for a 7000lb vehicle, far superior to the LC
B. Tahoe, Suburban are still in demand.. hell new Tahoe sales are up 20% this year.
While i agree that the inflated SUV sales are due to crossovers Large SUV's are hurting at all.
The reason why we're seeing a decline in sedan sales is b/c of the crossovers, b/c the get comparable mpg and can haul more ..
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:46 pm to AU4real35
About time!
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:47 pm to skinny domino
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Camry and Accords wearing that arse out.
They are both having trouble moving at the volume they posted just a few years ago.
Crossovers are in now.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:13 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Demand for personal vehicles in America is way down.
Actually, it is not. See chart in link below. After 2008, a lot of people held off purchasing vehicles until the economy improved. There was a steady surge in purchases over the next 8 years and we are now seeing a leveling off.
2017 still had the second highest sales number since 1977. It was back in 2000 that has higher sales and just by a hair.
LINK
CAR sales are way down but not vehicle sales. Below is a link to the top selling CAR sales. Honda, Nissan and Toyotas are crushing Ford and Chevy...
LINK
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:19 pm to member12
GM needs to shut down. Absolute horrible POS they are producing.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:27 pm to Placebeaux
I agree. Overpriced and overrated. Not exactly a promising combo.
I never understood why every car has the same interior...at least hide it a little better that you're ripping consumers off.
I never understood why every car has the same interior...at least hide it a little better that you're ripping consumers off.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:53 pm to member12
The dealer model of the car business is so outdated and inefficient.
If you can pick out a car in the internet and negotiate a price why do you have to go through a dealer to do it?
If you can pick out a car in the internet and negotiate a price why do you have to go through a dealer to do it?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:07 pm to Mr Fusion
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Steel and aluminum are expensive.
But their corporate tax rates were nearly cut in half so affording the more expensive steel and aluminum shouldn't be an issue.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:14 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Hmmm, I wonder if there’s something that GM sees as a problem that these three plants have in common...???
DING DING DING
Good frick the unions
Well the new "NAFTA" has union (and gay) friendly wording in it, so dont get to excited.
Unions are probably ok, and signed off on it, with whatever it is they get in the new deal.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:16 pm to baobabtiger
We literally built and bought our last car over the internet...brand new, shipped from the factory to a local dealer where we completed the paperwork. Worst part of the whole thing, dealing with the financial guy at the dealership. I had the loan done before I built it online, we could have just had it delivered to our house...or to the bank who did the loan.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:29 pm to Gaston
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Worst part of the whole thing, dealing with the financial guy at the dealership.
What was he doing to make it a hassle? Trying to sell you all the "extras"? Last car I got I would ask for a list of all the "extras," and it was liking pulling teeth. Like "dont know what you are talking about. We dont do that" kind of thing. Crazy.
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I had the loan done before I built it online, we could have just had it delivered to our house...or to the bank who did the loan.
Why didnt you?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:33 pm to AU4real35
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Honda or Toyota won’t have a problem selling their cars. These pile of junks gm are putting out are on dodge neons level
God the Neon was so bad
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:37 pm to member12
Some basic market advise:
Stop designing and building generic pieces of shite and try something original. American car makers (trucks not included) are pushing what is essentially McDonalds on wheels to the public. Sure, there is a certain market that will eat it ... but try appealing to segments with a little taste. Quit with the retro, out of ideas movement and just DESIGN something new and attractive. And fire that Chevy commercial guy!
Stop designing and building generic pieces of shite and try something original. American car makers (trucks not included) are pushing what is essentially McDonalds on wheels to the public. Sure, there is a certain market that will eat it ... but try appealing to segments with a little taste. Quit with the retro, out of ideas movement and just DESIGN something new and attractive. And fire that Chevy commercial guy!
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