re: Gen. Barrow: Former USMC Commandant and Baton Rouge Native on women in combat

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sounds like someone and a lot of the ppl in this thread dont understand how much war has changed since then.

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Lol if you think infantry combat has changed a bit since then. You have no place in this thread. Run along now back to your feminist SJW fantasy world.

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sounds like someone and a lot of the ppl in this thread dont understand how much war has changed since then

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It really hasn't.

If anything, it's even more of an unfit environment for women to be integrated. Rotating into combat for four to six weeks at a time like WWII or Korea would be more conducive for integration than a platoon or company stranded on a far-flung outpost for a year like they are now in this counter-insurgency type fight.

Oh, that's not to mention that the individual combat loads are much heavier now than they were fifty or seventy years ago. Drones and technology alone don't cut it; you still have to have those small groups of happy idiots willing to go hunt down and kill people and seize/hold land to actually win wars.

Let me guess: you were never in a combat unit, especially in an actual war?

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No but he will frick you up in some Call of Duty

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This is natural result of an all-volunteer service. The general population has become distant from the culture and requirements of the various branches. At best, they read these articles from various defense journalists who try to describe current forms of war and predict what the future will look like and extrapolate from there. Describing to them what actual, no shite combat is like at the gritty end of things is like trying to describe to someone what it's like on Mars.

People have this picture in their heads about drones, unmanned platforms, tech support, networked battlefields, and so forth: they don't view/read the accounts of the worst of the worst (Restrepo, Black Hearts, The Good Soldiers, One Million Steps, etc.); they don't understand how bad things can still get for Americans at the tip of the spear in these places and how crucial unit dynamics are to keep these kids from falling apart. Again, it's like talking in a foreign language.

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t's like talking in a foreign language.

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That's why it's nearly impossible to describe things such as discipline, unit cohesion and morale. They are abstract concepts that can't be quantified with data or excel spreadsheets or PowerPoint presentations but the are very real and very important nonetheless. Even more so than technology or physical fitness.

I just logged back in to say you sound like a stupid little baby back sjw liberal bitch.

GFY fig.

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They are abstract concepts that can't be quantified with data or excel spreadsheets or PowerPoint presentations but the are very real and very important nonetheless. Even more so than technology or physical fitness.

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Actually, they can, and I am dismayed that a serious social psychologist hasn't tackled this kind of project. It's critical in group performance and leadership (granted, in business and other institutional settings - not military), and it affects the military a hundredfold more than any other organization in which I've worked; hell, I've studied some of this stuff in grad school, and I know it can be done. I am absolutely certain that Mabus and his ilk wouldn't like the outcome.

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I'm a male veteran and your wrong. IDGAF what standards they meet. And even if females do meet them they will barely meet them. Even the most physically fit women in the world would be among the weakest individuals in an infantry platoon.

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I'm a male Marine veteran. Women are given different physical fitness tests. Instead of 20 pull ups, they do a dead arm hang which is basically them hanging with their chin above the bar for several seconds. They also are allowed more time on their 3 mile run. But yet we want to open up combat MOS and they have weaker physical fitness tests. It's political correctness attacking what keeps Americans safe.

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Preach it! The social experimentS in every aspects of our nation needs to stop asap.

Yes, looking at you gay marriage SJWs too.

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Don't combine those two. Gays getting married does nothing to harm anyone.

Women in the marines is terrifying and could weaken our military. That is directly harmful to you and everyone else in this country.

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Women give life, sustain life, nurture life, they don’t take it.”

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He's obviously never been married

I knew General Barrow. There wasn't a finer soldier in all of these armed services. He had a greater love of Country than any man I've ever known. He served his Country honorably and had a great love for his family, especially his daughters. If he thought it would weaken a force, he was right.