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re: Gay Marriage Spinoff: Where should the new line be drawn on marriage?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
What if a human identifies as a 9-year old Scottish Terrier?
Since "feeling" or "identifying" as something is apparently the only thing that matters legally now?
Since "feeling" or "identifying" as something is apparently the only thing that matters legally now?
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:18 pm to fr33manator
I don't care about cousins
but when it comes to sisters/brother/parents marrying, you have the potential for some deep psychological manipulation going on if one of the parties is significantly older and has been in a position of authority over the other
but when it comes to sisters/brother/parents marrying, you have the potential for some deep psychological manipulation going on if one of the parties is significantly older and has been in a position of authority over the other
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean if i got to draw up the world, it wouldn't even be age. it would be capacity to contract
there are some 13 year olds more capable and ready to enter into contracts than some 30 year olds i know
So, in your opinion, if a 13 yr old girl or boy showed sufficient capacity to consent, she or he should legally have the right to marry whomever they choose, even if that person is a close relation to them? For example should a 13 yr old boy be legally allowed to marry his 40 yr old aunt?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:19 pm to NoHoTiger
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If you want to be married to six people and all agree, knock yourself out.
That's just ridiculous.
3-4 women, tops.
I have to think about them, too. It's not all about me.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:20 pm to Darth_Vader
The only line(s) to be drawn on marriage should be age, incest and not under the influence of anything that could alter one's state of mind (alcohol, pills, etc.)
What validates it? Well age is validated by statutory rape. Incest leads to deformed kids, etc. and all that. The validation for rejecting anyone drunk, high, etc. is pretty self explanatory.
What validates it? Well age is validated by statutory rape. Incest leads to deformed kids, etc. and all that. The validation for rejecting anyone drunk, high, etc. is pretty self explanatory.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:23 pm to Salmon
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I don't care about cousins
but when it comes to sisters/brother/parents marrying, you have the potential for some deep psychological manipulation going on if one of the parties is significantly older and has been in a position of authority over the other
Good point. But what if these conditions are not present?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:24 pm to Darth_Vader
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But what if these conditions are not present?
How would you be able to tell?
thus I'm against brother/sister/parent being able to marry
these relationships are too close
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:25 pm to Salmon
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you have the potential for some deep psychological manipulation going on if one of the parties is significantly older and has been in a position of authority over the other
So we should forbid, say, students and teachers from marrying, even if both are of age and consenting?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:25 pm to Darth_Vader
Omg why are you trying so hard to argue with everyone?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:26 pm to fr33manator
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So we should forbid, say, students and teachers from marrying, even if both are of age and consenting?
they have been in position over a kid for their entire lives?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:30 pm to Paige
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Omg why are you trying so hard to argue with everyone?
Argue? I'm not arguing with anyone. This is just a good civil discussion, nothing more.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:36 pm to Darth_Vader
Everyone should be able to marry...
Except bikers.
Except bikers.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:36 pm to Salmon
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How would you be able to tell?
thus I'm against brother/sister/parent being able to marry
these relationships are too close
I actually agree with you on this point. I'm just trying to see what others thoughts on this matter are and on what basis they stake their point of view.
From a legal standpoint though, if both (or I suppose "all" if there's more than 2) parties are of age of consent, I don't see on what legal basis they could be prevented from marrying whomever they want.
Now this is just my personal opinion, but I believe that a legal president has been set that could see the marriage "line" as I've called it be being based solely on age of consent. It's the only legal limitation that I could not see ever being overcome by someone wanting to challenge marriage laws as they stand today.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:38 pm to Darth_Vader
Well we will see men and animals getting legally married within 10 years. Book it.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:39 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Well we will see men and animals getting legally married within 10 years. Book it.
I highly doubt it. And it all goes back to the matter of consent. An animal cannot consent to anything.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:39 pm to Salmon
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they have been in position over a kid for their entire lives?
So...it should be cool for absentee parents to come in and marry their offspring?
What's the cutoff for "in a position of power over someone for X years"?
Should bosses not be able to marry employees after a certain amount of time has passed?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:40 pm to Darth_Vader
They can't protest either.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:42 pm to fr33manator
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.it should be cool for absentee parents to come in and marry their offspring?
No because I think there is still too much of a psychological influence between a parent and a child, no matter how involved that parent was/is in the child's life
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What's the cutoff for "in a position of power over someone for X years"?
I have no idea
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Should bosses not be able to marry employees after a certain amount of time has passed?
Is the boss over a minor? Not a very good comparison bro
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:42 pm to Tiger Ryno
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They can't protest either.
LOL... it doesn't work that way.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 2:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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But what if they're related? Like two female cousins or even sisters?perhaps a male/female union between close relatives? Should they be allowed to marry?
I think they should. There is absolutely no legal ground for not allowing incestuous marriage and the idea that incest leads to grave genetic disorders has been largely debunked. The only thing not allowing close relatives to marry is the "yuck" factor that has permeated our society over the years. The U.S. is one of very few jurisdictions in the world that largely prohibits inter-family marriage.
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