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re: Gameloft closes New Orleans office, state to claw back $877,000 in incentives

Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:22 am to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:22 am to
This is what worries me about that massive lease being reported in downtown, like 150,000 square feet. Not sure if it is long term viable.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64476 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:22 am to
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Did they honestly think it would justify 1.97 Million?


Their agreement was through 2021, to have over 100 employees, so yeah over time, if the goals were met you could get pretty close.

Not saying that even then it would have been worth it.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36849 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:24 am to
Overtaxed with a shitty workforce. There’s a reason there’s so few actual businesses headquartered in Louisiana.

The state bleeds graduates from LSU
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:24 am to
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This is what worries me about that massive lease being reported in downtown, like 150,000 square feet. Not sure if it is long term viable.


Which lease are you talking about?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69201 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:26 am to
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Hence the staffing problem. I’m sure they pay decent, but it would take 6 figure salaries for even low level employees to get people down here from out of state.


This. They have the following problems:
1. their requirements are too high for local workers to meet
2. their pay isn't competitive with what people with the requirements they want can garner elsewhere. People I know in IT that could work for IBM were being offered 40% less money to work way more hours than they could get doing the same job in Houston for someone else.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293733 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:26 am to
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Good. They should recoup every single penny. Tired of these supposed free market warriors blathering about personal responsibility, etc. etc. while living off of the Gubmint teat.



Bingo

It's a downward spiral.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64476 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:30 am to
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their pay isn't competitive with what people with the requirements they want can garner elsewhere. People I know in IT that could work for IBM were being offered 40% less money to work way more hours than they could get doing the same job in Houston for someone else.


If this is true, than I’m not sure how they’re expecting to ever staff the place except with interns.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:30 am to
DXC Technology, not sure if its actually been signed or not.

ETA: Just read the article, and they mention them in there.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 11:37 am
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8955 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:34 am to
I'm fairly well along in the Networking/Systems/Devops side of the house. I just moved from the state to Texas. There just aren't enough large presences in the state to support a healthy job market. And when offshore oil and gas is down, it's even worse. It was very hard to make the decision to leave where I was born and raised, but the type of environment I wanted to be in just doesn't exist in the New Orleans area. The biggest player left was probably Ochsner. The second I changed my LinkedIn location, I've been getting contacted non-stop.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69201 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:35 am to
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If this is true, than I’m not sure how they’re expecting to ever staff the place except with interns.


I don't think they're serious about actually staying here. I think they're putting on a sham to milk the state for incentives and then bolt as soon as their deal is up, and in the mean time avoiding making too many commitments.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
28481 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:37 am to
I’ve never met a brain surgeon but they exist.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8955 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:38 am to
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I don't think they're serious about actually staying here. I think they're putting on a sham to milk the state for incentives and then bolt as soon as their deal is up, and in the mean time avoiding making too many commitments.




This.

I went through the interview process with DXC. They had the positions set up to be SME/Architect level knowledge and experience, with entry level pay. They don't want to hire people, they want to claim they can't find qualified candidates and then get H1-B workers.

The people that are qualified for the postings won't take the pay they offer, and the people that will accept the pay aren't qualified.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293733 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:38 am to
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I don't think they're serious about actually staying here. I think they're putting on a sham to milk the state for incentives and then bolt as soon as their deal is up, and in the mean time avoiding making too many commitments.


This is the modern business world. When incentives run out they bolt or close shop.

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:43 am to
So when DXC claims they are going to offer jobs with $63,000 - $73,000 average salary + benefits they are full of shite?
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 11:47 am
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8955 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:43 am to
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We know their future is bright because we have attracted so many other employers in this sector to New Orleans, from game studios like High Voltage Software and inXile, to niche industry developers like Performance Software and Smashing Boxes, to leading IT (information technology) services employers, such as Geocent, GE Digital and DXC Technology,” he said.


one of those things is not like the other. Somebody must be friends with Bobby Savoie at Geocent.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17272 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:46 am to
People that live in BR don't want to work for IBM. Never heard a positive comment about them
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8955 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:47 am to
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So when DXC claims they are going to offer jobs with a "$63,000 plus benefits initially and $73,000 as hiring continues" average salary they are full of shite?



That's extremely low for lots of IT positions. I interviewed for a team-lead position and the offer was laughably low for the job responsibilities. They have a reputation for doing this and then abusing the visa program. Took my ball and moved to Texas.

Keep in mind $50,000 for a helpdesk level employee is not unheard of. So $63,000 isn't really appropriate for some of the roles they are trying to fill.

ETA: DXC already has a horrific reputation to work for too.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 11:48 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69201 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:48 am to
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People that live in BR don't want to work for IBM. Never heard a positive comment about them


It's because they take forever to contact anyone who applies, rarely interview anyone, and when they actually do offer someone a job, it's 40% below market value in a market that probably pays less than any other in the nation.

Why would anyone like them?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:52 am to
good to know, thanks.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8955 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:53 am to
The really frustrating thing about all of this is you look at cities like Nashville and even Chatanooga that have transformed themselves into thriving IT job markets, and New Orleans/Louisiana just can't get it together.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 11:54 am
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