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re: Friendly no smoking reminder: Starting in June, no smoking in bars and casinos
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:10 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:10 pm to wildtigercat93
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No one is saying smoking is a right.
It's a right. It just happens to be a regulated right.
You can't legally smoke until you're a certain age and there are certain places you aren't permitted to smoke. But smoking is definitely a right as is just about anything else you can imagine.
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:11 pm to fightin tigers
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So build your business model on allowing an activity that will result in death.
You do realize we are talking about bars here right?
The ones doing free drinks for 2-3 hours on Thursday nights with heavy handed pours?
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:11 pm to fightin tigers
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Why choose this cornerstone to build your soapbox on? To some extent the point of government at this point is to regulate businesses.
90+% of regulation is pointless and unnecessary and does more harm than good.
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:13 pm to NIH
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Could be wrong but I feel like most of the decent bars in BR were already non smoking
I haven't smoked in years but I fired up a heater in Ivars after they quit allowing smoking inside. The bouncer almost tried to check my knuckles before I explained that I didn't realize it wasn't allowed any longer
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:13 pm to wildtigercat93
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You do realize we are talking about bars here right?
The ones doing free drinks for 2-3 hours on Thursday nights with heavy handed pours?
I can give you health benefits for alcohol. Can you give me benefits of a cigarette?
The only result of cigarettes are negative. They kill you and the people around you. There is no debate.
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:14 pm to LSUsmartass
This country truly is a shadow of it’s former self. From the land of the free and home of the brave to the land of the self enslaved, and home of the cowardice.
Most of those supporting this are clueless to the principles behind this country’s founding, and place very little value on liberty, except when it pertains to the liberty they find affects them alone. Principles are an antiquated thing of the past, self driven political ambition is all that remains, and they’d roll over and take anything up the arse as long as it was wrapped in a pretty package for them so they could feel all warm and fuzzy about celebrating it.
We are literally going to eventually regulate ourselves right out of liberty until one day people will wipe the sleep from their eyes only to find that they really aren’t the land of the free and home of the brave anymore at all.
Most of those supporting this are clueless to the principles behind this country’s founding, and place very little value on liberty, except when it pertains to the liberty they find affects them alone. Principles are an antiquated thing of the past, self driven political ambition is all that remains, and they’d roll over and take anything up the arse as long as it was wrapped in a pretty package for them so they could feel all warm and fuzzy about celebrating it.
We are literally going to eventually regulate ourselves right out of liberty until one day people will wipe the sleep from their eyes only to find that they really aren’t the land of the free and home of the brave anymore at all.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:15 pm to fallguy_1978
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90+% of regulation is pointless and unnecessary and does more harm that good.
Agreed. Try to close pandoras box on another cause that has some benefit.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:16 pm to fightin tigers
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I can give you health benefits for alcohol. Can you give me benefits of a cigarette?
Here's the deal Stalin
People go to bars to indulge in vices
Drinking, smoking, gambling, twerking, getting STDs from one night stands. Whatever.
It's not meant to be a fricking health resort.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:16 pm to weagle99
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Fascinating
Way to get the point.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:17 pm to Mike da Tigah
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We are literally going to eventually regulate ourselves right out of liberty until one day people will wipe the sleep from their eyes only to find that they really aren’t the land of the free and home of the brave anymore at all.
Yep. All under the guise of health and safety. Do it for the children Mike!
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:17 pm to fightin tigers
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I can give you health benefits for alcohol. Can you give me benefits of a cigarette?
Good lord what a ridiculous argument
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:18 pm to weagle99
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The dangers of secondhand smoke are unproven
Wow.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:18 pm to Mike da Tigah
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We are literally going to eventually regulate ourselves right out of liberty until one day people will wipe the sleep from their eyes only to find that they really aren’t the land of the free and home of the brave anymore at all.
The US banned absinthe in 1912 due to unfounded health concerns. Recently legalized it again.
Get off your high horse thinking that things are different than they used to be.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:20 pm to statman34
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It is more than inconvenient. If it just smelled bad that is one thing....but the health issues surrounding it make it way more than that and you know that.
Simple solution for you and I as non-smokers. Don't go to establishments that allow smoking.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:24 pm to Hulkklogan
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When your right to smoke tramples my right to breathe clean air, your right deserves to go away.
While you’re making up bullshite rights....
I always got a good laugh out of this one that’s basically the same weak argument:
When your right to free speech tramples my right to not be offended or feel “safe,” your right deserves to go away.
You’re not very good at this.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:26 pm to BeepNode
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The dangers of secondhand smoke are unproven
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Wow. I assume you live in Livingston Parish or some D.R. Horton neighborhood?
Recent information suggests that it's not nearly as harmful as we've been led to believe. I grew up watching TV commercials that our government created suggesting that marijuana would fry my brain like an egg.
Forbes
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:27 pm to UPT
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I always got a good laugh out of this one that’s basically the same weak argument: When your right to free speech tramples my right to not be offended or feel “safe,” your right deserves to go away.
Actually, you’re getting a laugh out of this argument because you’re not making the right comparison.
When someone’s free speech can cause physical harm to others, their right to free speech should and does go away. It’s why you can’t falsely yell “fire” in a crowded theater.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:27 pm to UPT
I actually prefer to go to bars that don't allow smoking inside and have a patio for it
That being said the people arguing in favor of the government forcing the issue are just a bunch of nanny state pussies
That being said the people arguing in favor of the government forcing the issue are just a bunch of nanny state pussies
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:32 pm to fightin tigers
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Get off your high horse thinking that things are different than they used to be.
Things aren’t that different in that tyrants will always be tyrants, and people will return to their vomit like dogs who want to relive what big government tasted like.
What is different is our calloused disconnect to the founding principles of liberty away from government interference we once championed as most important in this country, and have instead chosen the way of creating a world WE think we would like to see in,others, be that in smoking or even in thought and speech. You want fricking robots? You’re going to get fricking robots. You’re the robot.
I’d like to see marijuana legalized, not because I smoke it. I literally can’t stand it. It should be legalized because it’s not of my fricking business unless and until it affects someone else other than the person smoking it. Same goes for cigs. I can’t stand the smell of cigarettes, but I’ll be damned if I want to tell private sector what they can and can’t do with smoking policies that affect their patrons and bottom line. I’ll just choose to go elsewhere if it really bothers me, or not at all, as I don’t have an entitlement to go to any business, and they don’t have the right to make me. That’s how it works.
Why do you want to rule the fricking world and make them all robots?
Just be yourself and enjoy freedom.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:39 pm to liz18lsu
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I'm not a smoker, but jesus, get the frick over it
We are over it, starting in June
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