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re: Friend committed suicide
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:21 am to League Champs
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:21 am to League Champs
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There was a way out. People do it all the time. File for bankruptcy, work you way out of debt. And live on a tight budget for a while He wasn't about the work it off part. He wanted others to invest in his plans. When he ran out of investors, he was too proud to work for anybody
Normal people do it all the time,but you are expecting a person with a mental disorder to make the same rational decisions.
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:38 am to EA6B
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Normal people do it all the time,but you are expecting a person with a mental disorder to make the same rational decisions.
Maybe I'm not being clear. This man loved himself. And how he saw himself. And how others envied his life. He had a certain expectation of how his life would go. And when he ran into the brick wall, and reality no longer fit his preconceived notion of what his life was to be. He wanted out. He was done. His life (the way he wanted it) was over
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:03 am to OKellsBells
K- worst day of my life....
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:07 am to League Champs
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Maybe I'm not being clear.
You're being clear. You just don't seem to understand that the guy had some pretty classic symptoms of mental illness. Rational people don't kill themselves. It's really not tough to understand.
Sorry for your loss OP. About two months ago my wife's cousin killed himself, so I know the pain you're going though right now. It truly sucks.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:25 am to Barrister
Had a good friend commit suicide 2 years ago. We were at a bar talking about nothing and catching up, and he went home and shot himself. He was house sitting and didn't even know how to use a gun. Had a 20 ga. With 12 ga. shells laying all around and 1 20 ga slug in the chamber. He tried until the gun went off.
Found out later he was bipolar, and refused to take his meds. Would have never known he had a drinking and gambling problem at 24 years old. Miss him every day. Sorry for your loss, OP.
Found out later he was bipolar, and refused to take his meds. Would have never known he had a drinking and gambling problem at 24 years old. Miss him every day. Sorry for your loss, OP.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:31 am to Barrister
Alcohol can trigger all this. My friend shot himself a few years back. Still sad to think about.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:39 am to The Blonde Tiger
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Mental Illnesses
Two words but oh well, it is what it is.
Not everyone that commits suicide is mentally ill, not in the way you think about mental illness.
drugs and alcohol are very dangerous for the mind. Drug addicts and alcoholics are generally selfish self centered people. Abusing amplifys the problems.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:45 am to DuckManiak
It can happen to anyone. My dad was 66 when he committed suicide in 2010. It was the night before thanksgiving. We were all in the house when he did it. He was a Vietnam veteran and was dealing with demons that I wasn't aware of. It's a life changing event for all affected.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 6:49 am to Barrister
Yea, it's very close-minded to view every suicide as a selfish thing.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:10 am to Muriel
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People who haven't had someone close to them kill themselves are the ones who say it's a selfish act. It's a childish mindset to think that way, but it's common in our society.
Permanent solution to a temporary problem...suicide is definitely a selfish act, especially if the person has children.
You do not believe it to be because you have an emotionally vested interest which clouds your judgement.
Committing suicide while having young children is about the most selfish thing a person could do and I have zero sympathy for them.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:23 am to dgnx6
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addicts
Addiction is a mental illness.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:27 am to LSUERDOC
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Permanent solution to a temporary problem...suicide is definitely a selfish act, especially if the person has children.
You do not believe it to be because you have an emotionally vested interest which clouds your judgement.
Committing suicide while having young children is about the most selfish thing a person could do and I have zero sympathy for them.
I'm sorry, but this is just ignorant. And the reason you feel that way is becaue you have no close connection to suicide. Hopefully you never have to understand, but maybe next time just keep this opinion to yourself.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:29 am to LNCHBOX
I get that, but generally they aren't attempting suicide left and right or don't need to be in an institution.
Just saying that drugs and alcohol frick with your head. Drain your dopamine levels so you are down more than you would usually be.
I'm addicted to nicotine, stopped off and on. Bout to hit 6 months of sobriety from alcohol. In that context, I am mentally ill.
But not a single person that knows me would even think that. Or lump me in with what society usually deams as someone with mental problems.
Lots of people, almost everyone is addicted to something. Think about the guys that are so obsessed with LSU sports. It's an addiction, a mental problem.
Just saying that drugs and alcohol frick with your head. Drain your dopamine levels so you are down more than you would usually be.
I'm addicted to nicotine, stopped off and on. Bout to hit 6 months of sobriety from alcohol. In that context, I am mentally ill.
But not a single person that knows me would even think that. Or lump me in with what society usually deams as someone with mental problems.
Lots of people, almost everyone is addicted to something. Think about the guys that are so obsessed with LSU sports. It's an addiction, a mental problem.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 7:36 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:33 am to dgnx6
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I get that, but generally they aren't attempting suicide left and right or don't need to be in an institution.
People I know that are in AA have been to 10 funerals in the last 6 months. I think they'd beg to differ.
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But not a single person that knows me would even think that. Or lump me in with what society usually deams as someone with mental problems.
The same can be said for a lot of people that hid their pain so well and ended up committing suicide.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:34 am to Barrister
If this is who I think it is, he certainly had his demons, but he seemed to have gotten himself together in the last few years.
Damned shame.
Damned shame.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:34 am to HeadyMurphey
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Had a friend leave my house after a weekend of partying. Had a great time. Went home and put a shotgun to his head. We were only 19. Very smart guy, great personality, from the outside nothing was wrong. That was 20 years ago.
This perfectly describe a guy who lived next to me in a duplex, but it was 30+ years ago. It seemed completely out of the blue. The next day his dad was in the bedroom scrubbing the blood off the wall and throwing the bloody mattress and sheets into the back yard. It was mind numbing.
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I used to always dismiss this as simply a selfish decision
That was my reaction then. I was wrong about that.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:45 am to LNCHBOX
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Addiction is a mental illness.
Wrong. Addiction is a chemical dependancy.
You people are just making shite up now to try and argue a poor convoluted stance.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:31 pm to 3en
i'm sure the point he's making is that mentally ill people are far more likely to become addicts, due to the desire to self medicate...perhaps you should quit pretending that your extreme feelings toward someone you obviously hate who committed suicide are not based on any facts regarding mental illness...it's understandable to feel anger given the circumstances, but you have made assertions in this thread that you perceive as fact, which are simply emotional reactions to a terrible situation.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:36 pm to Barrister
Prayers.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:39 pm to Barrister
My cousin committed suicide. I had to carry his casket. At first you wonder about what was wrong (deep down you know though). In the end after being around his parents, being the first one his brother called and hearing his inconsolable crying. No matter what suicide is selfish. All the pain the person felt just gets blown out to everyone around them. I still think about how much it makes me mad he did that to his family.
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